Nika

What type of financing for your startup do you find most acceptable?

In the AI ​​era, it is no longer so difficult to finance things from your own resources – bootstrapped (except for promotion or hardware-intensive solutions).

I have always saved money and tried to do things myself (what I didn't know, I learned to do to save on financial costs).

The more demanding projects often require external financing, most often VC and investors.

But to be honest (and if I wanted to save in the long run and "not owe anyone anything", it is possible that I would rather take a business loan from a bank, which I will repay at some point in my life).

  • Which types of financing do you find most friendly?

  • Is there anyone here who was lent money by family or friends to get started?

(I would like to know the extent of trust in you and your ideas they have.)

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Blake at Vassant

There is a fantastic book on this concept called "Getting Real." It discusses the pros and cons of bootstrapping vs raising VC money to launch.

Let me boil down the main idea. When you raise cash:

  • You answer to someone other than yourself

  • You have external pressures to grow and report profits

  • The customer experience is diluted

  • The longevity of your platform is constrained

Bootstrapping forces you to compromise with $ constraints and enables you to build organically for your ideal customer. That trust is broken when other incentives are on the line.

Stephen Harmston

@blakeatvassant one downside of boot strapping is that if you have competitors with funding then they have the opportunity to outpace you. It can be great but it's also frustrating.

Blake at Vassant
@stephen_harmston I generally agree with the principle of this risk, but I’ve learned that sometimes customers want less done better. So when competitors are spending money developing hundreds of features and targeting a really broad client base, you can win by doing a few things really good & targeting a niche.
Nika

@blakeatvassant Having money is the primary advantage that buys time. But anyway, if I had an opportunity to get money, I would rather try something where the pressure is not created by investors.

CemY
D honestly im trying to bootstrap as long as possible right now been building a communication app called WhisperLink mostly by myself and the biggest advantage of bootstrapping is being able to obsess over weird niche problems without someone constantly asking about short term growth metrics lol feels slower sometimes but way more creatively free
Nika

@cemii What can that app do?

CemY
@busmark_w_nika mostly built it because i got tired of constantly saying “what?” in loud cafés, bars, airports etc 😅 it basically lets 2 people hear each other directly through headphones with super low delay instead of fighting all the background noise also added an offline mode using bluetooth/wifi so nearby phones can still connect without internet. kinda turned into a weird mix of communication + local emergency tool while building it lol
Marcelo Arias

While I've also worked with bootstrapping so far, I'd eventually like to try the VC route at least once, or at least government programs from other organizations that are also interesting

Nika

@marcelo_earth It would be faster with money in your pockets + having some advisors, but yeah, I prefer bootstrapping anyway :D

Stan Kolotinskiy

I don't have any startups, but I would probably eventually retort to my own money and a loan in a bank (I guess I could get some fairly nice amount of money given my credit history (blank :D) and my payroll being official)

Nika

@sk_uxpin We are on the same boat, honestly. And paying things once is better than paying things recurrently :D

Stan Kolotinskiy

@busmark_w_nika that's exactly my feeling :D Now that you mentioned it, I'd rather not buy big things like a car or an expensive laptop/phone using loans - somehow makes me feel uncomfortable

Nika

@sk_uxpin well, imagine how many people use loans for such things as basic things, "vacations, waching machine" instead of producing the value (starting a business).

Stan Kolotinskiy

@busmark_w_nika well, I can't judge them for that - you can't spend the whole life only on producing something or earning something :)

Aleksandar Blazhev

I would take funding from government institutions. Why? Very simple. The state can be your best ally, but it can also be your biggest enemy. That is why I think this kind of institutional funding is more than welcome, especially if you are in Europe. You have the opportunity to get funding while also having your interests supported at a national level.

I see relatives as a bad option because, unless they are serious names in a given niche, they give you nothing besides cash. And ruining relationships with relatives is a nightmare to me. On top of that, can they lobby for you at a national or global level? Can they connect you with key players in the niche?

A bank is basically the same as relatives. It gives you the cash, but it has absolutely no interest in your business. It only cares about getting its payments on time. So to me, it is a bad partner. It is a cheap way to get money, but an expensive way to get connections.

VCs are a good bridge. They have both connections and money. They can lobby for you, so I see them as a pretty strong option.

Nika

@byalexai I haven't been thinking about that this way. Maybe I should reconsider because of those relations. But anyway, still interested how that gov funding works because when I got like 1,200 euros, it was accompanied with so many documents. :D

Eric Emmanuel .C.
I would bootstrap for as long as I can I wouldn't want investors who just want to get their investment back enshitify my startup for short term profit