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CloudMagic for Mac - Simple, beautiful & blazing fast email app now on Mac.

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Mia Mabanta
I was on the CloudMagic beta for about three weeks before they launched the public version. I consider myself a power user: inbox zero, can navigate Gmail completely on keyboard, use a bunch of extensions, have also been alpha testing Polymail, prefer Slack over email, etc. I've been using CloudMagic as my primary desktop client for several weeks. My thoughts below. Pros: — UI: The UI truly is a zenlike experience. After just a few minutes of using it, both the Gmail and Polymail interfaces felt visually stressful in comparison. The "message list" view is nice and clean, and the "compose message" experience in particular really lends itself to focus. Really nice. — UX: *Some* of the UX features are super slick: for multiple inboxes, being able to ⌘+1, ⌘+2, etc. to go to each of my different inboxes, and ⌘+0 to show messages from all inboxes, is awesome; sending attachments is also remarkably fast. — Speed: Super fast app. Cons: — Navigation: The number one thing for me, the one that will end up being a dealbreaker if it's not resolved, is that the keyboard shortcuts are (1) completely different from Gmail's for the most part, and (2) not as comprehensive as I'd like (e.g. can't easily switch between composing a message and the inbox view; can't use "n" and "p" to move in between messages within a thread, so on several occasions now I have replied to the wrong person). Given the app's wonderfully minimalist UI, this is a real shame, because if one *could* navigate the app entirely by keyboard, it would really complete the uniqueness of this user experience. A further note: This didn't bother me as much when I first started using the app over the holidays, but since I've returned to fast-paced work mode, it's been a real pain point (e.g. hitting "A" to reply all but instead archiving the message) and I've already sent several messages to the wrong people, or prematurely. I imagine this will be a similar point of friction for other Gmail power users. — UI: The UI is awesome, but as others have mentioned, customization is fairly rudimentary at this point. I'd like to be able to condense spacing, for example, the same way Gmail allows for a "compact" display vs. "comfortable." — Search speed: For the most part, navigating the app is super fast. The exception is the search feature, which comes nowhere close to Gmail's. Not sure how much can be done about that given that it's working off of IMAP. (And CloudMagic search thankfully uses the same search operators as Gmail.) A few other minor limitations, that I believe the team is already planning to resolve in future app updates: — Limited formatting within messages: Currently, there's no way to include an image within the email body as opposed to attaching the file separately. And copying and pasting things like spreadsheet excerpts doesn't convert well. — No extensions or special Gmail features, like Full Contact, Sidekick, Undo Send. I'm told these are on the way as well. Bottom line: This app has *enormous* potential to streamline my workflow, and I would fully switch over to it and fork over the $20, IF the limited pro user functionality (i.e. having to click around way too much) wasn't such an impediment.
karthik suroju
@miamabanta Thanks for your honest and comprehensive feedback. We are already working on some of the pain points that you've mentioned. This is the first version and the app will only get better. We won't disappoint you :)
Zac Davies
Would be nice to have a trial version to test out before committing to purchasing
Rohit Nadhani
@zacdavies No simple way to do trials on Mac App Store.
Zac Davies
@rohitnadhani @zacdavies Of course, so you offer a trial download direct on the website which expires after x days.
Umesh Gopinath
@zacdavies Yes. Right now we kept it simple to push the the first version out asap. We'll get to offering trials on our website in the future.
Thanasis
Is it me or the design looks very similar to @Medium ?😒 Looks nice thought! But 19.99$ is a bit to much! And there is no trial!
Umesh Gopinath
@tnsrig No simple way to do trials on the Mac App Store. CloudMagic is free to use as long as you want on iOS and Android and if you like it, you will be right at home on the Mac too. You are paying for the cohesive experience of emailing with all your preferences intact on all your devices.
Baard O. Hansen
Congrats on your Mac App Store launch. I love CloudMagic on my iPad.
karthik suroju
@ibaard Thank you :)
Fraser Smith
"Our 3M mobile users have been asking for a native Mac app. This is by far the #1 feature request." So why not gouge $20 out of those requesters? I know that desktop email clients are very difficult to monetise, but seriously, $20 and no trial? Lots of people provide trial versions of apps, and sell through the Mac App store, it's not rocket science. Saying it's difficult is not a valid response. Some might say the lack of a trial is a cynical ploy to grab as much revenue as possible.
Rohit Nadhani
@frassmith Yes, its difficult, not impossible. We wanted to keep licensing as simple as possible on launch. For a lot of our users, the "trial" is our mobile apps. In the future, we might figure out to offer trials on desktop apps as well.
Lee Wynne
@rohitnadhani Hi there. Good to see all the PR on the launch. Two questions, both related 1. Why should I buy this when Spark is due out anytime for free. 2. What is the reason for the price? Is it because you don't farm people 'be aware of geeks with free gifts etc'?
Rohit Nadhani
@leewynne If you like our mobile apps, go ahead and buy on Mac.
Lee Wynne
How about we get some feedback from someone who has paid for it and is actually using it? Worth the money? Anyone?
Troy Clark
@leewynne I was lucky enough to get a promo code through their site, and I've got to say it's a slick app... but not one I would have been happy with at $20. It has a bare-bones preferences menu (much less than available on the iOS apps) and seems to be missing a few features that I use on the iOS apps. Right now, it really seems like the only benefit from this app is Handoff, and as a native OS X & iOS API it doesn't really seem logical to pay $20 for such a feature.
Umesh Gopinath
@raptblue "bare-bones preferences menu (much less than available on the iOS apps)" - should not be the case. Which one did you miss? Yes there are some preferences on the Iphone that are not applicable on Mac.
Tom
CloudMagic on iOS has been a sublime experience. Unfortunately it's now competing with rather excellent Spark by Readdle. It would be great to see some of the iOS functionality on desktop. I am guessing this may be an early release and we will be seeing more magic coming. Creating a app for email is tough and one that works across platforms doubly so. Apart from the general malaise and challenges with email itself it’s apps like CloudMagic that will hopefully help pave the way to a more succinct and seamless experience. Looking forward to seeing how this evolves.
karthik suroju
@tomflemming Thanks! One thing is for sure, you'll be seeing more magic!
Jonah Lopin
Awesome job on this guys! cc @JohnOsborne
karthik suroju
@jonahlopin Thank you :)
David Bon
CloudMagic IOS has been my preferred app for a long time and I too was keen to try the Mac version. I have tried all the other apps and and had settled on Airmail 2 (using it with 10 accounts) although I did prefer Mail Pilot for moving emails into folders. CloudMagic has a very clean and simple look. I think people might just need to learn the keyboard shortcuts that it offers to get the most from it. Maybe a good youtube video would help. I managed to get to "inbox Zero" after installing so I was very impressed with that. I have no problem with paying a fair amount for a good app. That way the company hopefully stays in business and continues to develop new features. For those that are worried about the cost do you realise you can always ask Apple for a refund if the app does not do what you expected it to do. I have never had problem receiving a refund. I am looking forward to seeing the cards feature added soon. Keep up the great work CloudMagic.
karthik suroju
@davbon741 Thank you for the wonderful words, they really mean a lot. Yes, we'll look at the ways on how to communicate our keyboard shortcuts better, maybe a Youtube video as you suggested will be a good option. And cards will be added soon. I'll keep you posted. Happy emailing!