Tristan Pollock

Waydev - Git analytics (2018) version 1.0

V1 - The fast & visual way to understand your developers. Waydev analyze your codebase from Github, Gitlab & Bitbucket to help you bring out the best in your engineers work.

Check out our V2 - https://www.producthunt.com/posts/waydev-2-0-1

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Kirk Gray

LOC was a bad way to measure productivity in the 90s. It's gotten no better. This creates all kind of bad incentives for engineers. Number of commits has nothing to do with number of quality commits that delivered customer value.

Pros:

None

Cons:

Horrible way to measure effectiveness

Alex Circei
You are right if we were measuring only LoC, but this is not the case. We know that some engineers are afraid of our accuracy and we are and will be transparent about everything we do. For the current moment, we're targeting non-technical founders who work with remote developers where you don't know anything about them, and from now on you will be able to track them - week by week. We don't track the performance; we measure the activity of a team. What do you say to give us a try and tell us if we're relevant? https://app.waydev.co/register
Alex Circei
Great to be back on here. At the previous launch, we've received a lot of feedback regarding our solution, we've processed the feedback, and we're excited to kick off 2019 by launching our new product. The new dashboard gives you an overview of your work so you can check the health or see correlations across your commits. -- https://www.producthunt.com/post...
Peter Bell

It's super important to find ways for non-technical founders to connect with and manage engineers. This isn't one of them. Tracking an engineer by lines of code is like tracking a marketing person by the number of words on the home page. You don't want the most words, you want the most concise way to tell your story.

And number of git commits is not much better as it's super easy to game by just committing more often. Plus, if you want to get a high level sense of this, just look at the list of commits in GitHub.

Sorry - don't like to be negative about a startup or new product as I know the blood sweat and tears that go into making it, but this makes the world a worse place - sorry :(

Pros:

None

Cons:

It's a really bad idea :(

Alex Circei
You are right if we were measuring only LoC, but this is not the case. We know that some engineers are afraid of our accuracy and we are and will be transparent about everything we do. For the current moment, we're targeting non-technical founders who work with remote developers where you don't know anything about them, and from now on you will be able to track them - week by week. We don't track the performance; we measure the activity of a team. What do you say to give us a try and tell us if we're relevant? https://app.waydev.co/register
Alex Circei
At the previous launch, we've received a lot of feedback regarding our solution, we've processed the feedback, and we're excited to kick off 2019 by launching our new product. The new dashboard gives you an overview of your work so you can check the health or see correlations across your commits. -- https://www.producthunt.com/post...
James Barry
This tool is a throwback to the 80's and 90's. Measuring lines of code and commits does not work. It usually leads to bloated code . Usually in the 90's it meant that instead of writing some neat quick routine, you would cut and paste some crap that you found that did the same thing, but had 3x the lines of code. So you looked better. As a developer I would write extra long code (usually slower and less effective) to get my code lines up. As far as commits, my best developer commits a couple of times a week as he wants to noodle on it and make it better. depending on your coding culture this could stifle good code writing. Frequent commits is a way of getting code out quickly, not necessarily getting good code out. Think of the paper at school where it had to be 10 pages. You wrote a great 8 page paper that hit the mark. You would then fill in crap to make it the 10 pages. Same here. Horrible metrics for measuring developers. IMHO
Alex Circei
@jmbarry Hey James! First of all, thank you for taking the time writing this comment. 20 years ago you didn't have all the code in GIT and was almost impossible to track your developers based on their activity. For sure, also Google can be manipulated and fake your stats, but we will try to combat that. In the Impact metric, we consider the following: (1) The highest chunk of activity you did in the past, (2) The average activity of a developer based on our research and (3) The behavior of your activity in the last weeks. We don't track the performance; we measure the activity of a team. For the current moment, we're targeting non-technical founders who work with remote developers where you don't know anything about them, and from now on you will be able to track them - week by week. What do you say to give us a try and tell us if we're relevant? https://app.waydev.co/register
James Barry
@alex_circei I understand why you think its a great idea... But Github does not change things IMHO. We had CVS and tools to see about commits, and I was a co-founder of Collabnet where we launched Subversion. All had tools to measure lines of code by developer and "commits" atomic or otherwise. I think Dilbert unfortunately sums is up well http://dilbert.com/strip/2003-08-26 or http://dilbert.com/strip/1995-11-13 where the incentive for the developer changes (lines/commits/bugs) and that is where they focus, not good code.
Alex Circei
@jmbarry We have a big responsibility to track a development team, and we've worked a lot for having good accuracy. I hope you will give us a try and tell us your feedback.
Alex Circei
@jmbarry Great to be back on here. At the previous launch, we've received a lot of feedback regarding our solution, we've processed the feedback, and we're excited to kick off 2019 by launching our new product. The new dashboard gives you an overview of your work so you can check the health or see correlations across your commits. -- https://www.producthunt.com/post...
Alex Circei
👋 Hey everyone! First of all, thanks @writerpollock for hunting Waydev! We're psyched to be here. I built my first online business back in 2007, and since then, I've created and launched tens of products. I've worked with developers all my entrepreneurial life, but all that time, I was frustrated not knowing why we were missing deadlines, why we were stuck, or why we were slacking off. 😞 I know that if you know a little bit about code, you can study the code, but if not, you are asking questions and following your intuition, and in most cases, you are dead wrong—you don't know anything 😣 Without real data, you can't take any decision. Fortunately, because most of the developers' works are in GIT, we've found the solution to tracking their activity. We've built Waydev, a tool with which you can track real data from your developers, without their input with the mission to help the community of non-technical entrepreneurs worldwide 🙌 Waydev brings everything you need to track your development team 📈 ✅An easy-to-understand overview of your developers’ work ✅A single metric to follow, week after week ✅Comprehensive deep analytics for each developer We’re integrated with Github and Bitbucket, and will integrate with Gitlab, Slack & Google Apps in the upcoming month. I’m hoping to get your feedback, questions, and ideas here 🙏🏼 PS: ❤️ We have a great deal for Product Hunt, too: Apply the code PRODUCTHUNT at checkout to save 50% OFF.
Alex Circei
@writerpollock @akislaopodis Hey Akis! Thank you! I hope, Waydev will help you to your problem.
Tristan Pollock
Waydev is designed to help non-technical founders understand and manage the work of your developers. You can access the detailed reports on your tablet or smartphone and at a glance you can see how much progress is being made and where the major roadblocks remain. Because it is designed for non-technical founders (like myself), you can still keep your project on track, even if you don’t know the details behind each specific line of code.
Denis Todirica
Congrats for the launch @alex_circei and @buzea_valentin! I saw the Slack and Google Suites logos on your homepage, how are you integrated with them?
Alex Circei
@denistodirica Hey Denis! We've seen that most developers communicate in Slack either on the email and for improving our Impact metric we've decided to correlate the communication in your company with the data from your GIT providers. We're not (yet) released the integrations, we plan to release them in September.
Denis Todirica
@alex_circei sounds great! Looking forward for the coming updates and releases.
Alex Circei
@denistodirica Thanks!!!
Alin B

In the entrepreneurial age, devs are the lifeblood of all projects.

Problem is that non-technical founders or managers have little to no control over them.

Having met 10s of founders with failed projects due to complicated circumstances with their outsourced dev teams, this simple tool gives an overview of their work so you can basically sleep better at night and focus on growing the business.

Pros:

For a non-tech manager, it gives an overview of your development teams' work

Cons:

Might be seen as micro-management by devs

Alex Circei
🚀🚀🚀
Savelii Kovalenko
It's really a pain to track development efficiency sometimes so I see a lot of potential in this product. Great work!
Alex Circei
@savelii Thanks!
Moritz Plassnig
Interesting product. How do you compare to other tools like GitPrime or Velocity from CodeClimate?
Alex Circei
@moritzplassnig Hey Moritz! From what I know, their focus is on technical manages (VP's, CTO's), but we're laser-focus on helping non-technical founders. This means we have an easy to understand interface with only a few metrics to follow. Compared with them, we also have a freemium plan, where everybody can use us for free. Technically we take the data in the same way, but our algorithms are different.
Anna Martirosyan
Congrats on the launch! It seems interesting and well executed!
Alex Circei
@anna_martirosyan hey Anna! This means a lot for us! Thank you!
Anna Martirosyan
@alex_circei You are more than welcome, Alex!
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