Hey there! Are you crying because Sunrise is living its last hours? I know I do. These guys have been working on a replacement for Sunrise and, even if there is still work to do, their calendar is already working very nicely.
I've been freaking out for several months because I couldn't find a suitable calendar replacement for Sunrise. When I found Kin about 2 weeks ago, I finally felt relieved that someone was stepping up to fill the large hole in my life that Sunrise is leaving behind!
It's not up to the par that Sunrise set quite yet, but they have a very solid start and are improving on it rapidly, so I'm sure they will get there in the coming months.
@thomas_howard1 ...and we aim to continue improving it rapidly 🚀
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One of my favorite features that sunrise had was the calendar keyboard and the ability to past a link for the times that I was available.
Is there any chance this could be on Kin's road map?
@jameswahba It's a tricky feature that is in our "Ideas" backlog on our public roadmap: https://trello.com/b/RXCPcX7U/ki...
Depending on the votes, we'll put some resources to work on it in the future.
@zacdavies The iPhone app is in private beta right now, we aim to release a more public beta very soon. It'll be announced by email so that we can add people on testflight 👍🏼
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@troblous Fantastic! Looking forward to learning more about it :)
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Great job, simpe idea but solving a real need: "what the hell am i supposed to do when Microsfot shut down my favorite calendar app?" Keep moving!
@edtheron We loved Sunrise, we were early users. When Microsoft announced that they would shut down, we tried other calendar apps...and didn't find THE one.
So we're building it.
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@troblous How long did it take to build and what challenges have you found on the way? Also how did you find early adopters (I hadn't heard of you before now!)?
@stinhambo@troblous 3 months with lots and lots of challenges. On the technical side: working on the integrations, building an API without relying on some of the frameworks that powers pretty much all others calendar apps (which "limits" them in a specific way of doing calendaring).
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@zowesiouff That sounds like a tasty discussion! Do you mean 3rd party calendar API providers? @troblous
@stinhambo A quick example: EventKit on iOS, if you build your app around it, you're basically limited to supporting what the stock Calendar.app supports (on top of being platform-locked to iOS / macOS)
As for 3rd party calendar API providers (the likes of Google Calendar, Office365, or even the ones we "consider" as such even though they are not: Trello, Wunderlist etc ...), you're very quickly limited by their abilities: that API doesn't support push? well I guess your app will not and will poll and drain your users' battery, If you have a layer of indirection between the 3rd parties and your users, you can poll on that layer and push to your users, yes it's not gonna be instant push (you're still polling somewhere) but at least you reduce the pain for your end users (no more battery drain, no more insane bandwidth usage)
The reality of calendars is that we should stop looking at calendars, period. The technology exists to make this possible.
Meekan.com exists for a reason. When I want to meet with someone, it should be 2 or 3 clicks, and all the contextual details of my calendar should be "o-authed" in and the system should automatically prepare my phone call, skype call, or whatever without me ever having to look at an actual calendar or type in a pesky pin number.
SMS would be the best channel to manage all of this and the early adopter group should be encouraged to have ridiculously detailed calendar events with location/etc... recorded.
@datarade Sure, except no. Please no more SMS nothingness. More importantly, many people are visual learners/perceivers/etc. Looking at a visual representation of my day allows me to see a visual representation of my day. That's a good thing.
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@andym_dc@datarade This is why bullet journal still win a lot of people. :)
It's a clear time for Sunrise alternatives... 2 TODAY (at least). There will definitely be a showdown. But nevertheless, I'm a big fan of Kin. I look forward to what it will be in the future. After using it for a little while, there are a lot of rough edges to work out. But nevertheless a put together product.
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