Hey there! Are you crying because Sunrise is living its last hours? I know I do. These guys have been working on a replacement for Sunrise and, even if there is still work to do, their calendar is already working very nicely.
@edtheron We loved Sunrise, we were early users. When Microsoft announced that they would shut down, we tried other calendar apps...and didn't find THE one.
So we're building it.
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@troblous How long did it take to build and what challenges have you found on the way? Also how did you find early adopters (I hadn't heard of you before now!)?
@stinhambo@troblous 3 months with lots and lots of challenges. On the technical side: working on the integrations, building an API without relying on some of the frameworks that powers pretty much all others calendar apps (which "limits" them in a specific way of doing calendaring).
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@zowesiouff That sounds like a tasty discussion! Do you mean 3rd party calendar API providers? @troblous
@stinhambo A quick example: EventKit on iOS, if you build your app around it, you're basically limited to supporting what the stock Calendar.app supports (on top of being platform-locked to iOS / macOS)
As for 3rd party calendar API providers (the likes of Google Calendar, Office365, or even the ones we "consider" as such even though they are not: Trello, Wunderlist etc ...), you're very quickly limited by their abilities: that API doesn't support push? well I guess your app will not and will poll and drain your users' battery, If you have a layer of indirection between the 3rd parties and your users, you can poll on that layer and push to your users, yes it's not gonna be instant push (you're still polling somewhere) but at least you reduce the pain for your end users (no more battery drain, no more insane bandwidth usage)
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Congrats 🙌
It's the best replacement to Sunrise that I've tested 👏
Can't wait to test the app, keep on improving it guys 👌
One of my favorite features that sunrise had was the calendar keyboard and the ability to past a link for the times that I was available.
Is there any chance this could be on Kin's road map?
@jameswahba It's a tricky feature that is in our "Ideas" backlog on our public roadmap: https://trello.com/b/RXCPcX7U/ki...
Depending on the votes, we'll put some resources to work on it in the future.
@stinhambo@klettseb@dcancel Hi Steven, we're curious to know why you disagree on this. Can you share your opinion?
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@troblous David Cancel is a very customer driven person and believes that roadmap shouldn't be published as that follows a product driven belief. I think I got that right? @dcancel
The reality of calendars is that we should stop looking at calendars, period. The technology exists to make this possible.
Meekan.com exists for a reason. When I want to meet with someone, it should be 2 or 3 clicks, and all the contextual details of my calendar should be "o-authed" in and the system should automatically prepare my phone call, skype call, or whatever without me ever having to look at an actual calendar or type in a pesky pin number.
SMS would be the best channel to manage all of this and the early adopter group should be encouraged to have ridiculously detailed calendar events with location/etc... recorded.
@datarade Sure, except no. Please no more SMS nothingness. More importantly, many people are visual learners/perceivers/etc. Looking at a visual representation of my day allows me to see a visual representation of my day. That's a good thing.
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@andym_dc@datarade This is why bullet journal still win a lot of people. :)
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