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Justin Potts

Visible - It's phone service. In an app.

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Visible is a phone service in an app. $40/mo all-in for unlimited data, messages and minutes all on Verizon's 4G LTE network.

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Denny Dai
Up to 5Mbps
Mattan Ingram
Canvs
@cndaihan One day companies will realize how much happier potential customers are when details like this are presented front and center, not hidden in the fine print.
Connor Van Ooyen
Degen Trends
@cndaihan Is this good or bad? I have no frame of reference.
Tom Moor
Linear
@cndaihan @connorvo on TMobile in SF - just did a speed test and it was 2.5Mbps on LTE
Jonathan Laniado
@cndaihan @connorvo @tommoor I just got 10 Mbps on T-Mobile LTE with ONE bar. Proof: Tl;DR: 5 mbps is trash.
Tom Moor
Linear
@cndaihan @connorvo @jonathanlaniado Not in San Francisco I guess? T-Mobile is particularly terrible here.
nikkwong
Fractals
I don't care how cheap Verizon is, I will never support them due to their lobbying for the repeal of net neutrality.
Anthony Da Mota
That's interesting how France is way more advanced on this since we have offers from 1€ to 20€/month (+ usage in Europe and calls to Europe and some countries like the USA) for unlimited everything 🤔 However, I am curious why other countries won't follow France on it (maybe they can't because something is too expensive?)
Maxime Doucet-Benoit
@akdm_ France is a TINY country with insanely high population density. The cost of infrastructure is nothing, therefore you can have low cost plans like this. Now look at Canada, where infrastructure is super hard to maintain because of cold and terrain, plus the fact that we need 1000 times more towers to cover our country, and our population density if laughably low, and an unlimited calls/text with 10G of data is about $120 dollars a month. Literally no one offers unlimited data here.
Anthony Da Mota
@maxime_doucet_benoit You're totally correct! @arecenello Sure, but in France, Orange; SFR and Bouygues (the three carriers) were doing prices between 30-80€/month for like 1-2h of calls; unlimited texts and 1-2Gb of data. In 2012 Free became the fourth carrier and broke the prices in ~3 (today they offer unlimited everything for 19€/m or 15€/m when you subscribe to they triple play Internet box too). All three other carriers now have similar offers between 5 and 25€/m. I hope there will be a Xavier Niel for you, Americans!
Chad Reiser
@akdm_ I know of two main reasons, both surround infrastructure. In the USA there is a huge amount of land to cover meaning more towers, more maintenance, more hardware expense. But that’s not entirely the main reason. The second is the marketplace allows for to charge a much higher price for the same service you may get in France. For deutsche telekom (T-mobile in the USA) this means they can charge high margins in the USA and supplement other markets with the cash. Many international carriers and markets benefit from Americans paying $100 a month for cell service.
Jigyanshu Rout
@akdm_ You should know about Jio in India where a GB costs less than a candy. India is way ahead of you folks
Sokratus
Postpone
@akdm_ @maxime_doucet_benoit I don't know about the size of the country. Here in India I pay about 8$ per month for Unlimited everything except data. The data is 40G per month with carry over with no expiration date. Right now I have about 240G unused data so far. The speeds are not bad as well, I get about 7-10Mbps.
Brian Lee
TheyMadeThat
Will they throttle you after you use up a certain amount of bandwidth?
Visible
@kay0stheory It’s the same speed, all month long, no matter your usage. Technically speaking, it’s up to 5 Mbps which is more than what you need to do everything you do on your phone.
Bryce Daniel
@kay0stheory @visible 5mbps is unbelievably slow
Michael Reynolds
@kay0stheory @visible @bryceoflife Clearly millennials aren't impatient at all and are used to waiting for everything in life.
Gary Bacon
Mister Bacon
@kay0stheory @visible @bryceoflife Yea. That's really slow. I consistently get 35 Mbps on my AT&T plan.
Hayden Evans
@kay0stheory @visible How can anyone possibly think that 5Mbps down is a passable speed for mobile these days? People are playing videos from YouTube, Instagram, Snapchat, Facebook, etc - constantly. 5Mbps down would be excruciatingly slow for video content like that. It's absolutely absurd.
Brandon Hoffman

Don't sign up with Visible. I got the sim card yesterday. The service is slow as slow can be. Loading websites is PAINFUL. Their app sucks. Their customer support sucks even worse. I for instance ordered the sim car with a new number so I could TRY the service without cancelling my verizon account. Did you know you can't port a number later? You didn't? Well how the hell would you? Every other service allows that. Their customer support is flippant and unhelpful. They would not offer a refund. AVOID!

Pros:

Price

Cons:

Very Very Slow To Load Website - AWFUL Customer Service - Can't Port a Phone Number AFTER you sign up to TRY the service....only at signup

Catherine Schultz-England
I’ve been trying to port my old number that I ported to Visible to a carrier that will actually give me working service. Visible won’t respond on their chat or Messenger what my account or PIN numbers are. I’m ready to give up my phone number of the last decade, just so I can get working service elsewhere. What a nightmare!
Lance Scadden
@pottsjustin Do you have any invite codes?
Gaurav Kumar
@lancescadden1 this is available in India or not
Esteban Aravena
Streetfies
@lancescadden1 just message Visible directly on Twitter: @vIsIble. That’s how I got mine 😀
Shubhankar Kahali
Hyperpage
@lancescadden1 @gaurav_kumar6 Verizon is a US based company, them are not available in India and I doubt if it will ever be. In India we have Jio as an alternative I guess.
Visible
@pottsjustin @lancescadden1 We do! Use code CFF48
Visible
@lancescadden1 @gaurav_kumar6 Sorry. We're just in the U.S. for now.
Shao
DoubleMemory
If this is indeed from Verizon... trying to imagine the internal politics before or long after this is released... how could a incumbent create such a disruptive product touching its own profit margin and be ok with it? What’s the thinking behind this? Differentiated markets?
Daylen Sawchuk
@randomor For the same reason that airlines also have budget brands, they appeal to different people. The budget sector is definitely lagging in the US, but I included an image of wireless carriers in Canada. Having budget brands prevents newcomers from stealing away market share.
Nick Nish
Bonsai
@randomor If it really is targeted at millennials like it seems to be, then it could be telling of their strategy to regain the millennial market. I imagine they're probably losing it to competitors like T-Mobile, which has a much friendlier, younger-looking brand identity imo.
Om Suthar
SQRL
It's almost insulting what verizon thinks of 'millenials'
Christian Vanderbeck
@designom84 Finally, a network in which whites AND blacks can talk on. At the same time. To each other. According to their clearly pandering photos, this is what traditional corporations have been missing all along. Smiley faces + white person + 1 nonwhite person = millennial friendly. smh
Hayden Evans
Lmao 5Mbps?! Go f*** yourself Verizon.
Ryan Hoover
Product Hunt
I was surprised to hear this is from Verizon. I couldn't find any mention of them on the site itself. While it's in private beta, I'm curious to hear from people that have used it.
Binoy Xavier Joy
@rrhoover To make it appealing to the millennials, it's better to shed that incumbent tag :)
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