Really nicely designed @macguitar! Excited to see this version on desktop.
How did you arrive at $40? I know a lot of time and effort goes into development, and you make spectacular products (I live on fantastical on mobile.) Just curious about the thought process of $40 vs 10 20 30 etc.
@jtriest Thanks so much! :) Well, it's a full productivity app that you'll use every day and we've added innovative features like calendar sets and our own CalDAV engine. We feel that for an app you'll use every day, it will provide an incredible return on your investment.
@macguitar@jtriest I think this is a great new price! The full price $49 sounds like a great spot to position the product.
It's worth it from the time and frustration that it saves me every single day.
Back in 2011, we created our first app, Fantastical for Mac. Our goal was to "fix" iCal, which was pretty frustrating and inefficient. In the past 4 years, we've had many innovations and breakthroughs to improve calendaring. With Fantastical 2, we wanted to fix Fantastical itself, and we think you're going to love it. Enjoy. :)
Love the new design, app trailer was awesome and I love Fantastical. But for how I use Fantastical right now, I don't get any more value out of a full replacement for iCal. All I use Fantastical for is to enter events really quick into my calendar with natural language, and set a few alerts on them. I don't spend much (any?) time in a calendar itself. When I have something, it will remind me. Are there any new features or improvements to the natural langague and quick add parts?
@joshdance@morewillie My eyes glazed over on the full feature list he wrote below (no offense @macguitar!)
A few use cases I don't think he listed, that I'm guessing at from the video:
* Voice event creation
* Create an event from highlighted browser text (clipboard text? couldn't tell)
* TODO list integration
* Choose a subset of calendars you see based on which computer you're using (actual GPS location? couldn't tell)
I'd love to get on board, but $40 to upgrade, considering Sunrise is free, the price is definitely steep. Neither are prefect, but I still have to load Sunrise or gCal to access Hangout links, and specifically gCal if I ever want to book a conference room. I'd be sold if it removed the need to open gCal. Any hint either of these are in the works ?
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Is there an upgrade path for Fantastical (OG) users? Looks awesome!
@jadojodo We are having a 20% discount at launch to provide a discount for users who bought Fantastical 1 for Mac. New users will also get this discount, but there's no way around this due to the way the Mac App Store works. We actually didn't want to have a launch sale, but we felt prior users should get some sort of discount, so we decided on the 20% off launch sale.
Thanks for the kind words! :)
@jadojodo@macguitar Along the same line of thought, is there a reason why you guys decided to build an all new mac app instead of adding to the current app? I think I remember paying something like $20 for the status bar app and it's a little unsettling to think that if I buy this one, you guys might make a Fantastical 3 that I would just have to buy again. Otherwise love the product!
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@macguitar To clarify, is $39.99 the normal price and it's 20% off that or $39.99 INCLUDES the discount...?
@jadojodo@cwrichardkim Short answer: back in 2011, our goal for Fantastical 1 was to "fix" iCal. With Fantastical 2, our goal was to "fix" Fantastical itself. :) This included things like not having to switch to Calendar whenever we needed to do certain tasks, plus the other benefits a full window provides. Still, we'll consider your feedback. Thanks!
Fantastic! I've been a Fantastical user for many years now. It's really hard to switch to anything else. Minimalism of Fantastical just beats all.
Having said that, new pricing seems to be quite steep (twice the first version?). How you guys plan to justify, when there are (now) more and more similar (natural language etc.) and free/cheaper alternatives? I'm sure many will ask. And do you have any plan for those, who would be upgrading from earlier versions?
@ugurkaner Thanks for your feedback. Just so you know, we launched Fantastical 1 back in 2011, and we've provided almost 4 years of free updates. Here's a look at our version history so can see exactly what we've done:
http://flexibits.com/fantastical...
Thats said, Fantastical 2 is an all-new app with many new features (check my post above for a list!)
Being a full reinvention of Fantastical and taking it to the next level, we decided to price it appropriately. We understand that you may not find the value in its benefits, as not every app is for every person. We hope you'll reconsider the work we've done and the new features we've added and the benefits Fantastical 2 provides.
@macguitar, I have the prior version of Fanstastical on my Mac, but I do not use it because it does not integrate with all of the services I use - specifically Outlook.com. Have you added Outlook.com or are you still pulling from iCal? And if not, any plans to be fully platform agnostic?
@macguitar Exchange is different than Outlook.com. I know, confusing. Regardless, Fantastical looks great! And if you are the first to solve this Outlook.com integration point, I'll sign-up. :-)
Fantastical 2.0 is as amazing as I anticipated. The only downside is the people who will complain about the price; something I've experienced on my end as well. The plus side as @macguitar mentioned is 1.0 was around for ~4years! It's just the typical thought process of the consumer who thinks 1 price pays for unlimited updates.
Now lets get CardTender :)
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