@benln we've been here before. Sheesh. Next up we'll need aggregators to deal with this until the next medium comes along... except this time there are no APIs. ☹️
@bentossell@benln@chrismessina yeah, I don't want open 5 platforms to watch stories for the same person. Once Buffer for Stories is out, I won't be a happy camper watching repeated stories.
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@benln Maybe everyone thinks too much and doesn't look carefully at the use cases. We have multiple circles of friends and acquaintances. There are more 200 countries in the world. Not everyone use Snapchat, not everyone use Instagram, not everyone use Whatsapp. Yep, all of us installed 5 or 6 chat apps in our phones, but for many purposes and to different groups. The dumbest things we will share only to our intimates on Snapchat. People don't add too many people on Snapchat if they are not influencers or artists. People add more friends on Instagram, and now they love Instagram for sharing everyday life moments with bigger audience. That is the reason of the success of Instagram Stories.
In Europe or Africa, Whatsapp is communication king while many others are marked "for fast Internet only", "data stealing" or "privacy concerned". The circles of friends of Snapchat is smaller than Instagram, and Instagram is smaller than Whatsapp. People now don't have to find a place to share their moment. They can do it in Whatsapp.
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Encrypted is the new _________ ? (caption contest)
@tduarte perhaps. but to be honest, I love that FB is copying Snap like nobody's business. Instagram Stories are awesome. I use them maybe once a week, but I actually do. Meanwhile, Snap was this ugly UI clusterfuck that I could never care to figure out. So yeah, they were "Original" but they failed to address users like me, and cloning is the result.
@kirillzubovsky@tduarte Apparently, we're not Snap's target audience. Young people supposedly love the navigation (or at least understand it). Still wondering how they'll get to $22B with <25 yo approach.
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The only bit that is exciting is that the feature is end-to-end encrypted. Besides that, I don't see so much of a need for another stories function.
Being U.S. based, I tend to not use WhatsApp as much as others might, so I'm curious. Does an updated stories function matter, or seem like it will be useful to more avid WhatsApp users?
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@dr_motley I wrote about this and Facebook's war on Snap.
Facebook's trying to just blatantly kill Snap through drowning out its user base. I don't see much of a benefit to any more story updates.
I'm always for more encryption, but this update feels like a blatant lazy push.
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@dr_motley personally, I'm already there. I hate Snap's UI, but I like how ephemeral it feels compared to Instagram. I like Insta's discoverability, but not enough people I know use it compared to those who use Snap.
I fee like Statuses are an outdated functionality grandfathered in from the days of desktop only and unpolished OS's. They're kind of pointless now, especially since most apps come with real time read receipts and available markings. They're gimmicks. Gimmicks that can be used as thin veils of innovation.
Define: unnecessary
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On a serious note, I wonder if WhatsApp gives FB a whole new channel for a new advertising model. The whole spray and pray on your normal FB is great, but like Google is getting old and boring, so will Facebook. With WhatsApp, they can now tell advertisers: "hey, we don't really know what's going on inside these encrypted channels, but we can help you ID the users in a brand new way, it just costs 10X your normal ad rates, but it is also 100X more useful. Want to try?"
Many people are missing the point that whatsapp is 5-6x larger than SnapChat and many people find whatsapp far more easier to use. If Whatsapp does a decent job of making this simple to understand it and consume it, this will catch on quick esp. considering most of my friends are on whatsapp (30+yr olds, non-US)
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@dr_motley@nash He did mention a key point " If Whatsapp does a decent job of making this simple to understand it and consume it, this will catch on quick "
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@otymartin@dr_motley@nash I disagree. I definitely do not want the majority of my Whatsapp contacts (family, colleagues etc) to see what I post on my Snapchat and I'm thankful for the fact that many of them don't have Snapchat. I'm sure this is true of most people who use the platform and is possibly Snapchat's biggest advantage.
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Mantra of Facebook - "If you can't buy it, beat it and shut it down"
@mohitify This mantra is truly disgusting but unfortunately that's the reality ... a company this big should be doing bigger things, rather than trying to monopolize on the app store and other areas.
Jeez Zuckerberg really took it personally when Snapchat rejected their acquisition offer. Been going to war with them with these Snapchat clones non stop. Let it go Mark, use your resources for more innovative things.
WhatsApp is useless until it has multiple device support. Useless in 2017 for folks who own a computer and a tablet and multiple smartphones.
WhatsApp built in an era for poor folks who could not afford text messages and did not have iMessage.
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@androidlove but it does work on multiple devices doesn't it? I have it on my laptop at least and I think it has an ipad app.
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