@danielkempe Not yet, this is seen as a little hack for time being, like all growth tactics, nothing will last forever :) I'll explore more on the twitter policies.
@cod3boy Yes, automating duplicate is a big one now, so I would suggest this is a surefire way to lose your account...
Plus not all growth tactics are spammy! ;-)
@danielkempe :) We are using test accounts for now, and whenever I feel like its spammy, I try to refresh my mind and think of it as targeted cold mailing for twitter ;-)
Hello Product Hunters! 👋
This is an accidental product when I was working on my other product. I was tinkering on how to find my first set of customers and it hit me to target the followers of my competitor. They would be my highest prospective customers. Thus TargetCompetitor.com! Now after successful internal usage we are releasing this to help other makers kickstart your product!
We send a personalised tweet to all the followers of your competitor on twitter and ask them to checkout the product.
Just let us know the twitter account of your competitor and the tweet you want to send to their followers. Sit back and relax while we tweet to all of their followers. Depending on the number of followers, it might take a little longer, but we will consistently deliver the tweets, however long it takes.
We have a very transparent pricing of $10 per 1000 followers of your competitor.
@abadesi Not yet, I am also concerned about being spammy, but I thought of this like a version of cold emailing but more targeted. Just a little hack to get users :)
@cod3boy@abadesi I think this is as spammy as email marketing software using curated email lists readily available, for a price of-course... To me, its extension of email marketing software...so why not...very good Sanjay..I would like to see results as they unfold...
@cod3boy cool, I'm sure it has its uses. Can you explain what you mean by "successful internal usage"? Did you measure any clicks, conversions, etc? Not that anybody gets clicks from Twitter....
As a customer, this would be a surefire way to make sure I never buy a product from your company. This isn't how you win my trust or give me confidence that you will do the right thing in the future.
Just my $.02
@_rlntlss Well, that's really unfortunate my friend :) However, I'd still try to make it right and see how I can win you as a customer, because I don't intend to do anything ethically wrong, I see this as a small little hack that helped me, and something that could help other makers too., hence posted here.
If you are speaking about my whole company, It took me a while to get here, and I would strive to be the best.
2010 — I lost about 80% of hearing.
2011 — Rejected for jobs because I can’t get on client calls.
2012 — Got a job paying $120 a month to learn and do a development job.
2013–2015 — more learning, job, startup.
2016 — Job offer for $120,000 which was rejected and went on to build my own company.
I got a full scholarship at Draper University, met some of the best minds in the world and that’s how I went on to build my company in Silicon Valley.
In between I reached over 1.7 million people on StackOverflow, wrote a Facebook app while learning which was used by thousands of users every month, developed and shipped over a dozen mobile apps, Invited by Google to attend their largest developer conference Google IO as their guest, built a developer community in my city from scratch to over 1000 people working with Google, wrote a resource ebook read by thousands of people every month globally, and most recently met the honourable President of India as invited for the Festival of Innovation 2017.
This isn't our primary product, I just thought I'd share with the community thinking it would help someone else too and learn more in the process, together :)
My $.02 for the community.
@cod3boy That's great Sanjay, it's nice to hear you're following your dreams. I still think building products and ultimately using your skills to do good and not waste consumers time, energy, attention is the way to go. If this was just a fun little side project/experiment. I wouldn't be commenting. But its ultimately spamming customers and charging for the service.
Wrote a similar script few weeks back. Never thought this could lead to a product hunt page someday :) good thought.
BTW: have a negative list too, in case i dont want to include specific usernames to be contacted, like founders of competitors.
@cod3boy yes and you could do following to acquire more relevant users for this:-
- Tracking companies that have recently launched their new product, saas, mobile app, website, online store could be more relevant as these will be the ones who need your product the most.
- Track companies who are actively hiring for digital marketing, growth hackers. You can top it up with industry, employee count (1-10,10-50 would be most ideal here).
Have more thoughts that i can share further if you want, cheers.
@nitinbajaj1423 I was not looking to put this up as a primary product, this accidentally happened while we were looking for growth options ourselves. But the conversation here is very engaging to think the product can be more useful. So yes, would love to read more. Here or sanjay@sievehq.com Cheers!
Sounds like a neat idea to generate leads. However, there are possible improvements such as
+ Making the tweet more personal by using the target's name
+ Making the pricing scalable?... The minimum possible payment itself is 10$ so one could test it before actually deciding to use it.
@irshadshalu Hi - You can personalise the tweet however you want, its fully customisable.
About pricing, we think there should be a minimum order of 1k to get some tangible results :)
@cod3boy , the personalisation I suggested was using the recipient's name to address them so that tweet looks more personal to them.. something like
"Hey $firstname, how are you... "
Hope you got the idea :)
Great hack to steal competitors audience 😁
By the way, few things are not clear on your website
- How to customise the tweet with prospects name or other details.
- From which Twitter handle you do the tweeting.
@shyjal - You cannot customise the prospects name, but we tweet it with their first name as its seen on Twitter.
- We are tweeting from our own handle.
Hey Sanjay, I am pretty sure Twitter will just flag the account that's tweeting at people, so those people never end up getting notifications. Have you tested that yet?
@daviswbaer Hey Davis - Yes, we have our little internal hack, sometimes its across few days but it keeps us away from flagging, I am not saying this is forever, but for time being it works :)
The idea is an interesting one. Spamming can be discussed like @bizfintech said it's not much different then emailing, although it's pretty public. It'd be nice it if it was DM. My question is which account are these tweets will be sent from exactly?
@bizfintech@gokcetosun We are tweeting from our own accounts to avoid the risk of our customers being banned. I’d be exploring the options to DM, thanks for that! \m/
I've went through many of the comments with regards to the legality of the tool. What I could think of is to pivot it into something that provides the data and analysis for people to let them choose the users they want to tweet to (manually or semi-automated whichever).
For example, we can do things like demographics segmentation, activity on twitter (do they tweet more, retweet more etc) or even things like gender and whatnot. I think this will be an extremely useful tool then for marketers to take it further from there.
@swiftpolar Interesting. We are also thinking about having a partner network of influencers, thereby eliminating the spamming, while creating more value users. Thanks for the inputs, thinking more about it along the lines :)
Made a payment and no confirmation, no email, no contact, no way of contacting support, no indication of when the process will start, no idea on how to get progress updates or what will be reported when its complete.
Transparent pricing or not, its not great after sales service.
You may want to lift that game a bit.
@benjamin_powell Hi Benjamin - adding the support email in website and automated confirmation as we speak. We are sending confirmations manually and being sent in batches. People who ordered first and second day can confirm they got an email from me. The response from PH was overwhelming :) additionally you can reach out to me personally if there is anything I can help sanjay@sievehq.com, hope this helps :)
I think this is great to consider as an alternative. I was built my own version of growth hacking method with more personalised message and automation. Works great so far, but never thought I would see this here on Product Hunt :) Godspeed for this product...
I know for a fact that a similar feature on a major product with 3 million users was killed because it clearly violated Twitter's TOS. I wish ProductHunt would have a bit more discretion here. This is definitively blackhat.
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I will block any company that uses this service and never use their product
Pros:It lets you spam people, I guess
Cons:Really bad practices, generally spammy, and probably breaks Twitter guidelines