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Ivan Zhao

Notion 2.0 - The all-in-one workspace - notes, tasks, wikis, & databases

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Notion is the all-in-one workspace. From notes, tasks, wikis, to database, Notion is all you need. Works great for teams and individuals. Available in the browser, iOS, Mac, and Windows.

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Ivan Zhao
Hunter
Hey Product Hunt, Notion founder here. About 1.5 years ago, we released Notion 1.0 on Product Hunt. At that time, the company was just my cofounder Simon and I, and we were nearly running out of money (thanks mom for the bridge!) If not for the Product Hunt launch and the overwhelming support from this community, we wouldn't have made it... Today, we are launching Notion 2.0. In all honesty, Notion 2.0 is really the 1.0 for us. It finally delivers on our promise – a singular tool that handles all your work outside email and Slack. With the addition of tables, Kanban boards, and calendars, along with the existing notes and wiki features, we think we have done it with this release – Notion is now truly the "all-in-one workspace". We have all kinds of users running on Notion every day, from larger customers like Airbnb, Intercom, and Slack, to small creative agencies around the world, or just individuals who want a flexible notes app to stay organized. We want Notion to grow into the general purpose tool for our generation, very much like what Microsoft Office did a couple of decades ago ;-) Next up: - Android app (This could be as soon as early April!) - Much better mobile and offline experience, especially for iPad. - ... and many more. Message us your requests in the app (via the little '?' on the bottom left), and we'll build it. Thank you again for this community. We wouldn't be here without you guys. Ivan Cofounder, Notion
Jacob Bøtter
@ivanhzhao A big thanks from me. Currently paying for Notion as its an indispensable tool for writing my next week, pretty much everything is being done in Notion and with the latest update I am heavily considering moving *everything* in the process to Notion. The tool also gets a nice shout-out in the book itself!
Andrew Mutavdzija
@ivanhzhao hi, thanks for your hard work on an excellent tool. question, though: where is v2.0? App store still lists 1.1 and no update available...?
Samuel Beek
@ivanhzhao First of all: congrats on the update. My company uses Notion a lot and I think these are great improvements. One thing I'd say is a hassle in your service right now and might help adoption for Notion inside companies, is that it's hard to integrate with other tools. I agree that it's best to have everything in one place but the reality is that it's very hard to switch a whole company and all its tools at once. So are you considering building integrations or a more powerful way to embed other tools, like how Slack does that? I think it'd be great if I could somehow link my kanban tool to my teams notion page. Is iPad a big market for you at the moment and is that why you're prioritizing it?
Joseph Wood
@ivanhzhao @andym_dc - This is what I've been wondering all day. I'm super excited to try it out, but I have no idea when it's actually coming out. I assume it's an update that is being rolled out some time today, but I don't really know.
Desmond
@ivanhzhao @samuelbeek +1 Really really want tighter integrations.
Nagarjun Palavalli

I want to move from Evernote (I am a premium subscriber) to Notion, I really do but I don't think Notion wants me to. Whatever I am about to say, I say it with nothing but respect for Notion and in the hopes that it will continue to improve at the same pace.

First, the good - Notion has the best note editing interface I've ever used. A close second might be OneNote (it's a high bar, mind you) and Bear. It combines the simplicity of Evernote or Markdown with the power of OneNote although, it is missing the ability to use handwriting and doesn't support iPad with Pencil just yet. When it does, it will be perfect. I also like that I can save code snippets. Why is this so hard for Evernote?

Notion 2's tables, boards and other updates are huge. While I'm sure the in-built kanban board is not as feature complete as Trello, it should be more than enough for most projects. Same for tables. Airtable has a bunch of really cool advanced features but for most use cases, tables within Notion are just fine. Notion is on the right path and I am sure these features will only improve.

Now for what I don't like - The price is definitely my number one complaint. I will happily pay for Notion when it can do everything that other apps can. Until then, why not let me stay connected to the product with a cheaper paid plan or a better free tier? I pay for Evernote but if I were to consider switching, I can't do so purely because Notion doesn't do a bunch of things that Evernote can (even though it does a lot of things that Evernote doesn't) - Chrome extension to clip articles, emails, images etc., powerful mobile app with business card and document scanning, iPad support etc.

At $8 a month, it is more expensive than G Suite on a per-user basis. Why not give me 100 - 200 free blocks per month? Let me grow to love it. Let me build a workflow around it. Give me some incentive to tell my friends about it. When you have the features I want (I'm sure you're working on it), let me pay for it.

Price aside, I would also like to see how Notion fairs for quick note-taking, It's designed to be a wiki-style product and I get that but I'm sure a LOT of people are using it for personal notes. I use Evernote to save one-line notes - phone numbers, quotes, URLs etc. Notion's wiki-style UX is too heavy duty for that kind of use. It would be really cool if there was a "scratchpad" or "quick notes" feature that was not as heavy duty. For these simpler notes, I don't want to organize them into pages, I just want to save them and may be tag them. Which brings me to another feature I could really use - tags. Why limit users to only folders? Why not allow users to just tag notes?

I could go on but ultimately, I won't be switching to Notion right now, even though I really want to. Cost is too prohibitive but I'm sure I'll be on the hunt for future updates.

Pros:

- BEST & most powerful editing interface hands down

- Brilliant, simple UX

- Lightweight Kanban and Airtable-like tables are huge

Cons:

- COST: Highly prohibitive free tier

- No way to organize random snippets

- No browser extension, no handwriting support

- Mobile scanning

Rick Sheahan
It does not do really well at quick note taking or brainstorming alot. I use mind maps or just Bear if I have to.
Jemshit Iskenderov
Underrated review, up up :)
Charles
They do have a Personal Plan now and it's really cheap. They set the barrier for entry quite low. I hope you consider. I love this app :)
Saad Kamal
Its only 4 bucks right?
Rashan Casseus
I would recommend Bear App. Simple compared to Evernote. https://bear.app/
Zee M Kane
I've been using this in private beta and can't emphasise enough how impressed I am with what the team have built. I was impressed with Notion 1.0 but never felt it did anything quite good enough to replace other products ... Notion 2.0 is a different story. This can legitimately replace your task management app (particularly Trello), your spreadsheet app (e.g. Airtable), your notes app (e.g. Evernote), your documents app (e.g. Dropbox Paper), Lists/Outliner (e.g. Workflowy) and it integrates them all incredibly elegantly - on desktop AND mobile. Massive kudos. Haven't been as excited about a product like this in literally 8+ years.
Yaser Ahmady
@zee Exactly how I feel.
Tim Schouwink
@zee exactly this. What a masterful tool it is!
Dragan Babić
An incredible update! Any plans on integrating with Zapier? I'd die for an option to be able to send stuff into Notion.
The Sultan of Sex
@draganbabic I need this as well. The ability to tie Zapier into Airtable / Asana is crucial for me.
Jerome Darker
@draganbabic @thesultanofsex +1 This would be very helpful
Ivan Zhao
Hunter
@draganbabic It's in our top 5 requests right now ;-)
William Nutt
@draganbabic @ivanhzhao Add my vote, please! I can't fully "replace" my other tools until this is in place.
Dragan Babić
@ivanhzhao That's great to hear! Thanks for taking the time to reply.
Rick Sheahan
Notion is so powerful, it's the first thing since mind mapping to seem like a viable way to get out my rapid stream of thoughts and organize them! The new release, from my short view is just another step in a massive featureset that feels like the perfect mix of desktop wiki, notes app, markdown (or markdown-esque) editor, with collaborations and now tables. My only issue is.... it's so much! I am overwhelmed with the abilities and have trouble building workflows that I can use with ease or quickly enough to not just resort to bookmarks or bookmark service extensions and notes widgets. It would be super cool to see interviews with devs ala thesweetsetup (and im sure plenty of other sites) to see how they use Notion for whatever, to get inspiration. Takes the onus off of the team to make tutorials that are subjective, too, so you don't limit imagination with your knowledge-base.
Rick Sheahan
these seem to be along the lines of what I'm looking for, but not always great quality and very few, limited perspectives. (sorry, the thumbnails auto appear)
Raphaël Chabaud
@cucumbur Same for me. I believe all-in-one products will always be less refined than specialized platforms. It is more tools to maintain but they come together well with tools such as Station. Notion is still an impressive product and one of the best note taking app on the market with evernote, slite, bear...
Francesco D'Alessio
@cucumbur Thanks for featuring me here! Sorry for the intense thumbnails!
Deepak Yadav
@cucumbur Why I created Obsidian OS I am a product designer and founder of 3 companies. Running companies, managing projects and personal life are altogether a complex objectives. I wanted to create a system to eliminate noise and build a kind of second brain. Notion as a product is very unique and a powerful tool which I used to create a system: Obsidian- Unified workflow notion system. The main concerns with these type of systems are they tend to break easily and needs lot of efforts or inputs to manage a Notion system. So I built this system in a manner that it takes very minimal efforts to manage and will be self expandable so that it doesn't break easily. Obsidian Notion System added value to my life and helped me reduce noise around me. So, I would like to share this system with rest of the world. Life is a game of patterns. The more we observe and analyse them, the more deeply we understand how the world works around us. One of the key insights of the systems approach has been the realization that the network is a pattern that is common to all life. This Obsidian OS is conceptually designed based on patterns and how each relative components functions effectively to work as a second brain for an individual. The system is organized into 5 Key Sections: Plan: Area dedicated towards planning, goal discovery and vision map. Work: Area focused on work related components to manage assignments and projects Review: Comprised of area which requires information analysis and review Track: Area focused on dynamic components which requires constant tracking Extras: Area contains additional sub areas like Personal space, dashboard, Shortcuts and database. Includes: Obsidian OS includes Notion template and all additional components associated with system efficiency and accessibility. 30+ Template sections 200+ Resources 20 Widgets (Including setup documentation) Icon library (Minimalistic - Light and Dark) Document Library (Agreements, Proposals and Templates) Notion Setup Guide (Sections in templates)
Steven J. Selcuk
pay for a to-do app.. Nice joke. 🤔
Pawel Kadysz
@stevenselcuk 😬your comment is a perfect example of pure ignorance. Not only Notion is so much more than a to-do app, but it also has a free plan (which is more than generous). And besides that, what's wrong with paying for a to-do app?
Logan Honeycutt
@stevenselcuk Notion is WAY more than a to-do app.
Rick Sheahan
@stevenselcuk As both a critic and a True Believer of Notion and it's potential, I'm willing to call out flaws it has. This isn't one of then. You are not only wrong, but if you WERE speaking based on facts it would still be ignorant
Logan Honeycutt
Notion is my favorite tool EVER, you guys have a lifetime customer here. I'd do anything for Zapier integration though.
Rick Sheahan
@growwithlogan Even better, just a decent API. I'll do the damn IFTTT / Zapier / Workflow / Stringify integrations if i have to lol, just give us an API
Chris Jayden
Sarah Hum
We've been using Notion at Canny on a daily basis for a while now. From our daily standups to our interview pipeline, Notion is the home for our docs. I was stoked to see the updates this morning—they add so much more power. Excited to see which tools I can stop using now 😅 Congrats to the team, you're killing it!
Rob Corradi
I really want to use Notion as a repository of useful links for my teams. Sadly if i want to use their visual web-bookmarks (Notion looks up the link to grab an image and article name), i can only add bookmarks one at a time. With several hundred i want to share, it would take too long. Add the ability to batch add links this way and i'd be signing up immediately.
Chris Jayden
@ribrob Should look into Raindrop.io
Lee Fuhr
@ribrob @chrisschwartze Yeah. Exactly, precisely this. On 1.0, at least, I tried this for our team. Paid an intern for a bunch of hours to move us out of Raindrop so we could simplify to Notion. Then… I never added anything because it's so manual and one-off. Back to Raindop now, but half-heartedly.
Rick Sheahan
@ribrob @chrisschwartze @cozysd Remarkably similar situation to me. Bookmarks in Notion, one of the main uses I planned it for, are such a chore and unconfigurable gross preview like on facebook. It's one of the primary reasons why I can't abandon Bear, Workflowy or OmniOutliner, Things 3, AnyList, and a variety of boookmark/tab tools including Raindrop (premium). I would love to switch to Notion but it's just innefficient.... It's too slow to build the system architecture for my organizational structures i plan
Chris Jayden
@ribrob Hmm, I just create Full Page Tables and put links that I wanna save in there. I then tag them accordingly. It works for me and it acts as a database which is great :)
Rick Sheahan
@ribrob @chrisschwartze Had the same realization today!
Vinay Hiremath
Notion is what the Loom team uses exclusively for all documentation. We've moved *everything* over to Notion. I'm so excited to be able to give the team an upvote here! I use Notion for personal tasks as well now, and I love that Loom videos expand and play inline in Notion. :-) This is how wiki software was always supposed to be done.
Matt Ragland
@vhmth was just thinking about this! How was the transition for documentation from whatever you were using before?
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