Of course, @caseyneistat shared more about the app on his vlog:
Love how honest he is: "This app kind of sucks. The idea is awesome but the app itself needs to be better." And this is the new beme and now we know why he wasn't talking about it. 😊
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@rrhoover@caseyneistat great quality of a founder, Stewart Butterfield says this of Slack: "Oh, God, yeah. I try to instill this into the rest of the team but certainly I feel that what we have right now is just a giant piece of sh!t. Like, it’s just terrible and we should be humiliated that we offer this to the public." (via @holman)
@rrhoover@caseyneistat It is a phenomenal idea, but yes, it does have some time before it appeals to more audience. The current Android version has BUGS.....BUG!..... BUGS EVERYWHERE! I lost most of my Bemes after they failed to upload. On a side note, I think if top influencers were to promote this app, it would definitely sky rocket among the general population!
Bg fan of Casey and his videos, however re: Beme, I personally think the app is:
1. way too complicated for what it should be (musicaly / snapchat)
2. doesn't provide more value (2x/5x/10x) vs anything thats out there in the market (instagram,snapchat)
3. doesn't have that "wow factor"
This was my thinking with their v1 and I do feel the same about v2, the record screen and process is just way too complicated than it should be.
I've built a video app in this same space before (clipstar / cliptone) so speaking from experience (2 years in this space)
Goodluck casey :)
@rickats@caseyneistat Agreed. I think it comes down to the amount of short form video that people want to share in a given day. If something cool is happening, the'll have to decided which platform to share it on. Why would they choose Beme over Snapchat in this case? All their friends are on snapchat, they have filters, etc. Beme didn't stand a chance from the day it launched, no matter how polished the UI/UX. Since Beme and Snapchat are both in the category of instantaneous short form video, Snapchat will win EVERY time.
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Nice. I was early in the first version but it just kind of fell out of use for me. Trying it again though.
It's an interesting space, where in some ways I feel like the phone form factor is getting in the way of what should essentially be a GoPro strapped to your forehead.
Anyway, a stab at breaking out the 'showcasing-your-life' space:
1. Instagram as edited, curated, persistent.
2. Snapchat as edited, curated, non-persistent.
3. Beme as unedited, curated, persistent.
I think everybody know and love @CaseyNeistat . Me too, of course. But honestly Beme has a great narrative (seen the intro video of the app?) and vision but a very very bad implementation (especially on android). I download it again on android after six months and it's still not working as it should.
The company is well funded and has a great team behind, but guys you still need to do A LOT better.
@mattryanharris@nick88msn@caseyneistat The problem with many apps is that they try to reinvent the wheel instead of following common design patterns. They just make apps super confusing to use. And implementation is far from being good either - the app is just laggy and when I tried to use I had no idea what was going on. I respect Casey a lot, but I don't think Beme would get anywhere.
@uvarovdd I completely agree. The UI is rough (reminds me first prototyping with rounded and square elements combined, countries header considerably smaller than the carousels...).This does not mean that the app is not good or won't have success, but from an "expert" point of view its a bad bad FIRST IMPRESSION. @mattryanharris@caseyneistat
Looking forward to playing with this! Hopefully @CaseyNeistat stops by and takes questions from the community 🙂
btw ICYMI back in September Casey did a Product Hunt LIVE: https://www.producthunt.com/live...
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@nivo0o0@caseyneistat Same for me, the new design is 👌. Yes It would be great if he could stop by if he find some time today. Also @caseyneistat "Can I be in the vlog ?" 😄
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To be honest Beme for Android isn't perfect and there's a lot of things to improve, but the overall is great, I love that concept!
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After 6 months of hard work, Casey Neistat and the Beme team launched their new version of Beme, rebuilt from the ground up. You can learn more in this Mashable article by @HeySamantha (http://mashable.com/2016/05/02/b...)
I used the beta on Android and stopped using it after several weeks but now I am back.
Thanks @Samsheffer for sharing this news on Twitter :)
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Snapchat started similar, so no editing and short videos. This takes the concept more in the raw direction. What I am missing is better discovery of other users, seems I can only search by username.
I have lots of respect for @mhkt, @caseyneistat, and the Beme team for building this. Building an app is not easy. Building an app that people want to use is even harder.
While v1.0 brings in a lot of nice UI/UX updates, I still question if Beme at its core is a sound idea.
People (me included) bring up Snapchat all the time when comparing with Beme. While Beme and Snapchat may be on opposite ends of a spectrum, the challenge is that they share same spectrum. From a content creation point of view, the two apps fundamentally compete for the same "I must share this!" moments in our lives. Right now I can't think of any reason why I'd open up Beme over Snapchat to share a moment.
Just my 2 cents. Maybe I misunderstand the use case...
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