Token

One ring to replace your keys cards and passwords

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One ring to replace your keys cards and passwords

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Password managers

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Wearables

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Authentication & identity tools

Launch tags:Productivity•Hardware•Internet of Things

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This looks incredible. Are there any deeper technical specs (does this support FIDO U2F, in particular)? And any possibility of a "developer version" that also functions as GPG SmartCard?

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9yr ago

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Maker

@mbthomas We're supporting FIDO2.0, aka WebAuthn over Bluetooth Low Energy and NFC. We also support Windows Hello for desktop login, which is being expanded for other web logins. I can't promise any specifics, but we're definitely looking into supporting other protocols that fit our scheme of private-key-on-device security. PGP would be an excellent first candidate.

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9yr ago

@john_dvorak very exciting about other key-on-device schemes! I had to look this up but WebAuthn is designed to subsume and replace all use cases of U2F *and* add provide additional non-phishable authentication capabilities.

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9yr ago

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Maker

@mbthomas Yep! It's a really exciting protocol. Once we saw the direction W3C and the WebAuthn protocol is taking, we joined the FIDO Alliance to help shape its evolution. We really consider it a key future technology, and are very proud to have working partnerships with Microsoft and MasterCard. The FIDO U2F and UAF protocols were strong and fit a niche use case very well, but I think there was a general usability problem where it was difficult to drop-in replace an existing password solution. That's why one of our major design goals was ease of use, so an end user can seamlessly add WebAuthn credentials that are EASIER to use than a password!

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9yr ago

Product Hunt

Another addition to the growing list of tech-powered rings: Ringly Motiv Nimb (I know I'm missing many others) Check this out, @corleyh.

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9yr ago

@rrhoover Someone needs to create One Ring to Rule them all.

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9yr ago

Product Hunt

@scottloader well said

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9yr ago

@rrhoover @corleyh y'all trying to make me The Manderin

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9yr ago

@corleyh @rrhoover Ha so I just found out my old startup that I founded is powering the payments in this! http://www.broadwayworld.com/bww...

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9yr ago

Is this for the private-key-on-device security market solely, or will it be covering activities that Motiv covers too?

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9yr ago

Token

Maker

@sam_cholera We're laser focused on the identity use case and on creating an amazing authentication experience throughout your day. We plan to add more identity artifacts to Token in addition to the 6 use cases we support (ie: think tickets, hotel keys, driver licenses, etc.) before considering adding unrelated features like fitness. We believe that identity is a big enough problem to keep us busy. When passwords are dead and credit card fraud is eradicated, we can talk fitness tracking.

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9yr ago

@shapirosteve this.

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9yr ago

Perimeter

Lets say you are unlocking your car. I guess the knock turns Token on and looks for the OBD device via bluetooth? If so, the same thing can be implemented with other bluetooth devices too? At nold.io we are working on a bluetooth based access control device, which can replace keypads, remotes, keycards etc... with your phone. Could be a nice addition to cover more use cases :)

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9yr ago

Token

Maker

@passatgt Nold looks awesome! What you guys did for garage door is exactly what we did for cars. The ring talks to the OBD device and does a cryptographic challenge/response to authenticate you into your car. We will support FIDO 2.0 (W3C Web Authentication API) over BLE and NFC and it's a standards based way of doing secure authentication so developers will be able to communicate with Token using the Client to Authenticator Protocol. We'll also announce a more generic "signing API" at some point in the future for use cases beyond authentication.

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9yr ago

I have an NFC Chip embedded in my hand. Any chance of opening this technology to be used with implants? Would love to use the car starting capabilities.

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9yr ago

This is a cool concept but if it’s work and come on time, not like other cool technology that they never came out

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9yr ago

Token

Maker

@dany20mh We totally understand the concern. We've actually gone through our first batch of manufacturing and hosted a live demo event last week for our partners including Microsoft and Mastercard where we showed off Token. Feel free to reach out to us with your questions at contact@tokenize.com .

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9yr ago

@josaphat @tokenize But still that doesn't help about my concern, other technology did they first batch and they had a lot of meeting too, like plastc card which it didn't come out and they went bankrupt. But if you really think this will come out on time (which it says Dec 2017) you can let us preorder it without paying it up front and when ever it shipped we get charge for it, that way at least our hand is not empty.

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9yr ago

i feel like every day we're edging closer to black mirror territory. first it's cards, then it's your phone, then it's your watch, then it's your ring, then it'll be a chip embedded in your hand, then it'll be a chip embedded in your brain... the odd part is, i'm not scared of it at all, i welcome it (even after the countless warnings)

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9yr ago

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