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Paulo Andrade

Secrets 4 - Tasteful password manager for Mac and iOS

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This is the latest and greatest version of the loved password manager for Mac and iOS. The inner workings have been rewritten to support a new major feature: Shared Vaults. The UI has been refreshed but still feel undeniably like Secrets: elegant and friendly.

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Ray Mond
There's an odd issue here. Secrets 4 needs MacOS 13. That's Ventura. Ventura is still a mess. Many of us have not yet moved to Ventura. Offering a discount isn't enough incentive to join another MacOS permanent beta. Why in the world reduce your potential market by restricting installation on a typical new MacOS? The uninformed masses are not your market, they buy 1P. Secrets market is a somewhat more informed group and those are the types that either jump on a new MacOS immediately or wait until MacOS 14 is launched then install 13. I'm in the latter group. More than willing to pay for Secrets 4. But not at the cost of installing MacOS 13.
Paulo Andrade
Maker
@ray_mond3 because there's a nasty issue with the Keychain on macOS 12 that requires a restart every time your Mac goes to sleep to unlock Secrets: https://developer.apple.com/foru... Secrets 4 was always meant to be compatible with Monterey (and aside from that issue, it still is). I have an open TSI with Apple and I'm hoping they can fix it. If they do, I'll drop the deployment target to macOS 12 immediately.
Paulo Andrade
Maker
@ray_mond3 did you alter the Info.plist to run on 12? Let your Mac sleep for more than 15 minutes. I was able to reproduce this issue on at least three different Macs running Monterey (and also had a bunch of reports during the beta).
Ray Mond
@pfandrade_ Odd. I have no issues with sleep and MacOS 12. I just tried and waited a bit over 15 min. Secrets launched fine, logged in fine. Its been in sleep for hours, never had an issue. 12.6.6, M1 Air.
Ray Mond
@pfandrade_ No alterations to any plists. No alterations to default sleep mode. The Air is basically box stock and just runs without any hic ups other than what we have learned to expect from Apple and OS releases. Secrets has always been fine.
Paulo Andrade
Maker
@ray_mond3 the issue I'm talking about is with Secrets 4 and the way it uses the Keychain (it uses features Secrets 3 doesn't use). Secrets 3 works fine on Monterey.
Chris Shaw
sadly very buggy. Works on my iPhone but crashes every single time I try to use it on my Macbook
Paulo Andrade
Maker
@chris_shaw9 I'm pushing an update to the App Store right now.
Walter Young
Hi Everyone, I am not sure this is the right place. But, I am having trouble figuring out how to share my Secrets 4 data between Mac/iPad/iPhone. Right now I have separate vaults for each and I am sure that is not right. 😀 If you could just point me in the right direction (a link to a website would be great!), I'd appreciate it. Thanks!
Paulo Andrade
Maker
@surfingwalt you have to click "Share" in the Vault's settings. But e-mail me at secrets@outercorner.com and I'll help you out.
Tamás Dinya
A huge dissappointment! I purchased the app only to find it being useless. Crashes constantly. After 3 updates which were supposedly fixed the crashing. NO! Please, please... don't touch, don't even think of Version 3 - at least it still works :(
Paulo Andrade
Maker
@tamas_dinya hello Tamás, the crashes you experienced should be fixed now. Apologies for the inconvenience.
Tamás Dinya
@pfandrade_ Nice try, but nothing changed :( Even 4.0.4 crashes immediately every time after importing a spef file from Secrets 3 :(
Paulo Andrade
Maker
@tamas_dinya I don’t have any open crashes related to import right now on 4.0.4. Send me the crash log you’re seeing to secrets@outercorner.com and I should be able to help.
Tamás Dinya
@pfandrade_ There should be at least one now. I installed the Mac version, imported Secrets 3 file, and it immediately crashed. Sent crash report to Apple. I dont know... something is very wrong. Crashes on IOS immediately, crashed on Macos immediately after import. Can it be maybe the Hungarian characters in the data? IOS, Macos are all up to date.
Paulo Andrade
Maker
@tamas_dinya surely not the Hungarian characters. I have users in Japan, China, Korea. Most likely an issue with the local storage introduced when running prior versions. Again, reach me at secrets@outercorner.com and I'm confident I'll be able to help.
Tamás Dinya
Hi Paulo. No, I am sorry to say that even version 4.0.4 still crashes immediately and every time I import a Secrets 3 spef file.
Walter Young
Hi Everyone, I just upgraded from Secrets 3 to Secrets 4 a few days ago. There are some significant upgrades here and it took me a little while to figure out how to get everything properly synched up between all my devices (thanks Paulo for the support). I really like the new version and there is no looking back for me. Just last year I paid for the iOS and Mac versions of Secrets 3. So, I understand people who are reluctant to pay the price for the upgrade to Secrets 4. But, this is a tool I use almost everyday. And considering that it has become an integral part of my online security, I don't mind investing some money to make sure the the company continues improving and supporting the product. Looking forward to Passkeys!
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