šŖ Do you use your own product every day?
byā¢
For us, RunEvr is the environment where we actually build RunEvr =)
For me, thatās one of the most beautiful parts of having a product - using it while continuing to build and improve it.
We do our everyday calls there, share ideas, chat, store files, do reviews, complete tasksā¦
And all of this is happening inside the same environment weāre building to help other teams do exactly that!
Kind of a mirror within a mirror =D
So Iām curious:
Do you use your own product every day?
Or do you mostly interact with it through the code while building it for further use, or for only users use?
Would love to hear how it works for you
2.3K views
Replies
every day, and if it couldnt get its own maker users i wouldnt sell it to anyone. marsell runs marsells own marketing, and i made a comedy channel with it, natural stupidity. instagram went from 11 to 951 followers in 3 days and past 2,000 in under two weeks, then youtube blew up, views went from 5,242 to 14,784 in 10 days. its directory agent found and listed us on a pile of launch sites too
@ilya_from_marsellĀ That's really great! It's such a great feeling when your own product brings you real value =)
Absolutely! And not just because I built it. š I created PitchGym because I love singing, and I use it myself to train my ear and challenge myself with exercises I actually designed. Plus, using PitchGym every day helps me notice tiny UX details and improvements I'd never catch just by testing it as a designer.
@anyabedrytskaĀ Wow, I checked it out, really nice, I also love singing! =)
are you going to have an android version as well?
@adanaĀ oh, thanks! yes, PitchGym has its android version too. Hope, you'll enjoy using it š©µ
@anyabedrytskaĀ thanks for sharing!
Wish you lots of success<3
That is such a real point! Using what you build every single day changes everything you feel the friction points instantly instead of just waiting for bug reports.
@ankit_pandit_devĀ Yes, I agree.
Is there a product you use every day?
Yes, and with a browser it's kind of unavoidable. Zigzag is the browser I'm using right now to read this thread, and the one I use to look things up while building Zigzag itself.
It's the best bug finder I have. If something feels off, like a tab acting weird or a site not loading right, I hit it within the same hour, and usually it's fixed that night. The tricky part is the opposite problem @emma_lagast mentioned: I don't use every chrome extension or every site, so I still rely on users telling me what breaks for them. A Tampermonkey bug someone reported yesterday got fixed because of exactly that.
It launched today, so this week is a lot of "oh, I never use it that way" moments š
@emma_lagastĀ @zigaowangĀ That's great! Checked your launch, congrats.
Yes, I do. But I've also realised that using your own product doesn't mean you understand how others will use it.
I've had people test things I thought were simple, only to find out they were confusing. That's probably been more useful than all the hours I've spent testing it myself.
I'm curious, what's the biggest thing you've changed after watching someone else use your product?
@moclarus_founderĀ One thing we didn't change but added after watching users was our onboarding system.
We're now working hard on making it easier for new users to get started and onboard smoothly.
And what does your product do?
@adanaĀ That's interesting, we've had similar thoughts about onboarding.
I'm working on MoClarusCRM. It started as a CRM but we're moving beyond sales. The focus now is on privacy, encryption and giving people one place to manage their contacts, daily activities and communication.
We're still in beta, and some of the feedback has made us rethink things we thought were simple.
I'm curious, what was happening with your users before you decided to improve onboarding? Were they getting stuck somewhere or just not coming back?
@moclarus_founderĀ Thanks for the details! Wish you lots of success!
In our case, our product solves quite a lot of problems, so users sometimes don't know where to start. That's why our guide Ari will soon help new users find their way around smoothly =)
Yes, every day! We use @MailerLogic across @BrainCert , @Learnly , and LiveClass for email marketing, CRM, SMTP sending, and campaigns. Using it as end users helps us explore its full marketing automation potential, spot friction, and improve the experience firsthand. š
@paul_jesuraj_ebinezerĀ that's really cool ! Wish you lots of success=)
Yes, definitely. For us, using our own product while building it is a must. It helps a lot with testing and also makes it easier to spot the small things that can make the experience simpler.
@harsh2vyasĀ Good ! What kind of product is yours? How do you use it in your everyday routine?
yeah, constantly, in a slightly weird way. Dial gives agents a real phone number, so every time we add a new call flow internally we end up calling our own agents to test it before anyone else does. it's a strange kind of dogfooding, i'm both the developer and the first annoyed user when a call drops or the agent says something dumb. the upside is bugs that would take a week to surface from support tickets show up in minutes because we're the ones dialing in.
@galdayanĀ Being both the developer and the first annoyed user is such a fun part =D You guys use the product in a really interesting way.
@adanaĀ it is interesting, thanks! the mirror-within-a-mirror thing you mentioned for RunEvr resonates too, feels like most of the useful dogfooding insight comes exactly from that loop.
@galdayanĀ Yes, unusual feeling when I share a UI design screenshot in the same UI =D
Thatās what makes the mirror effect feel the most.
Thanks for being a part of the discussions <3
I use one of my products 4 days a week, plus a one optional recovery day, and the other for 15 minutes a day for about three days per week. The first one is a functional fitness program for people over 45 years old packaged in an app. The second one is a bodyweight training/calisthenics skill-learning app where you can learn your first bar muscle-up (and pull ups on the way) by following a progressive training protocol and passing belt exams familiar from judo (next 'dojo' is going to be handstand).
As a product newbie, I agree it's great to be able to test what I'm building all the time and I feel a lot more comfortable making improvements when I know well what's missing or needs adjustments. And it's nice to have judgment if you get feedback that may be contradictory.
Oh, and the best thing is that there's at least one person who really enjoys my product!
@juho_rĀ Thatās great! Your products sound cool! I think itās good that the first one is dedicated to a special age group.
Are you going to launch your products here on PH?
@adanaĀ Thank you Adana! I'm still learning the basics of this impressive community but am considering it. The first one ('Masters Engine') may be a little too niche for PH but 'BMU Dojo' could fit into the Workout platforms category.
@juho_rĀ cool! If you like , contact me on LinkedIn, I can share some tips and tricks related to launching on PH.
Wish you good luck!
Yes, I make use of all the products I make, and in fact I usually create them because I needed them, so I created them and use them and add new features as I learn what I really need and what would make my life easier.
@dalemooneyĀ Yes, thatās the best when a product is built around a real pain point.
But donāt you worry that it could be too subjective of a vision? Do you discuss specific cases with other people to validate it?