Is it becoming more common for women to stay at work while men go on paternity leave?
I'm increasingly noticing that men stay on paternity leave with their child and women go to work.
I see this mostly in white-collar jobs or among people who generally have well-paid jobs, or almost equal pay.
It always felt more natural to me that the woman took care of the child (I'm not advocating patriarchy or matriarchy). I take it purely biologically (feeding, for example).
Why are more and more people embracing the trend?
Are women more productive at work, or do male founders have more freedom to delegate work?
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Are women more productive at work, or do male founders have more freedom to delegate work?
- My opinion no, women are not more productive at work and male founders does not have more freedom to delegate work.
All starts with feminism and results into feminization of men and masculinization of women.
From my perspective this is driven from western values and it is less common in eastern countries although it is going there as well.
The destruction of family values has been happening for a while, presented as liberation and freedom for both genders.
That being said, I have seen extremely successful women and men in business.
And the higher they rise the more masculine their attitude is - straight forward, action driven, confident.
For context I live in US right now.
@gapostolov I’d look at it the other way. A father who takes that time actually gets to see his kids grow up. He knows what games they like, what they ate, what they learned that day. The “provider” who only sees them for an hour after work misses most of that, and the kids barely know him. Staying home with them isn’t a smaller version of being a father, it’s a much closer one.
@gapostolov @alieksia Isn't this a case that women are less with their children?
@gapostolov @busmark_w_nika Not really, from what I see. Even when the mother works full time, she usually still does most of the day to day with the kids, the meals, the doctor visits, bedtime. A working mother tends to be more present than a working father is, just from how the load gets split at home. So it’s less that women are with their kids less, and more that they end up carrying both the job and most of the care.
@alieksia @busmark_w_nika
Of course it is.
You cannot do everything 100%.
And yes mothers still take care of the children more than the fathers even with a full time job.
Here the question comes which is more important full time job or your children.
And the answer nowadays is to pay a babysitter
@gapostolov I'm starting to see that here too; people want to have a career (money) first, and interest in having children is declining. On the other hand, I am not that surprised. The last thing you want is to have one more human to feed without resources. Especially when you do not know whether you will have a job tomorrow.
@gapostolov @busmark_w_nika
Sure it is a global phenomenon.
But I don’t think is because people don’t have enough resources.
You can see that the poorest people in third world countries have many children, and the richest have none.
Has to be something else
I think a lot of it comes down to how differently employers treat mothers and fathers. Nobody asks a man in an interview how many kids he has, but when a woman has one, it often gets read as frequent sick days and lower productivity. And that’s partly true, not because mothers are less capable, but because the care usually falls on them, and little kids get sick a lot once they start kindergarten. So for a woman it’s often safer to keep the job she has than to look for a new one after maternity leave, while a man taking the leave doesn’t carry the same risk.
@alieksia that's the reason why I would rather have my own company rather than being interviewed by employers to report my whole life. :D
@busmark_w_nika Exactly, this is why I have my own company.
P. S. I am not a parent that's why I am asking.