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Mark Prutskiy

How many times did you pivot?

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After 2 years, we pivoted 3 times and it looks like we will pivot 1 more time. I think pivots are essential for startups to survive. What is your story? How many times did you pivot with your startups? P.S. Our product: https://www.bumpy.app
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Roberto Morais
On my first business we pivot three times. We started as a fast mvp builder for non technical entrepreneurs, after some growth we become an agile development agency for enterprise (looking for higher recurrent revenue) growing for a few years before we reached a plateau and than we pivot again to become a "broker" between businesses and a community of tech specialists and have been growing fast for the last 3 years. On my current startup (Lumiar) we are on our second pivot, just finished simplifying the product, launching for early adopters next week and feeling very close to market fit. 🤞
Mark Prutskiy
@robertomorais Thanks for sharing your story. What was the most important lesson did you get from your pivots?
Roberto Morais
@mark_prutskiy the most important lesson for me is that it's really easy to lose focus of your clients biggest problem. Several times we were putting more energy on improving OUR product than in creating a better solution for the problem our clients wanted to solve. More than once we fell on that trap. I noticed that when you need to work very hard to convince your client that your offer is the best fit for them it usually isn't. Sometimes it needs a small tweak, others a pivot or even changing the client itself but from my experience when you nail the problem -> solution your clients just want it now, doesn't matter if its incomplete or still doesn't look great... they just want it now.
Mark Prutskiy
@robertomorais "improving OUR product" do you mean did you build that is unnecessary or did you solve technical issues? Totally agree with you about focusing on "problem -> solution".
Roberto Morais
@mark_prutskiy I mean the focus was on the product/service and not on solving our client's most critical problem (which resulting in working on unnecessary things). In other words there are always small problems to solve or things to improve in any product or service, it's easy to get lost on that. A lot of times we changed our offer based on small feedbacks or personal feeling of what the best product is but this hardly has any significative impact. I blame that on the pursue of productivity. Nobody wants to waste manpower so we are always looking for things to work on and that makes we take any low hanging fruit and work on that. What I learned is that it's better to "waste" time looking for the right thing to change or build (through prototyping / pre-sale / hacking a real mvp / etc) until you find it. This is a lot easier said than done because there are a lot of pressure on being busy and delivering things.
Gaurav Goyal
AI Link Manager
@robertomorais This is so profound. Completely agreed on both the things - figuring out ways to keep yourself busy and lot easier said than done. I was in the same boat.
Gaurav Goyal
AI Link Manager
Great question. The probability of hitting the bull's eye in the first go is not high. We did one pivot in our journey when we started building SaaS. It's a tough one, but the right thing to do for the business.
Gavin Hammar
I like to think of it as a series of iterations until we find product market fit. In my experience, the core tech remains the same but the positioning is what changes. My first startup, Sendible, began as an SMS scheduler and evolved into a social media management platform. It took 2 - 3 big iterations to realise who our customers were, but the core scheduling tech remained the same.
Mark Prutskiy
@gavin_hammar When you changed the positioning, does that mean you changed the landing page? How technically did your pivots look like?
Gavin Hammar
@mark_prutskiy yes, landing page, business model, pricing etc. We didn’t rewrite our tech completely, we just evolved it in the direction of our ICP. Sometimes it meant removing a feature and replacing it with something else. In most cases the pivot occurred because we got our original ICP wrong. Once we discovered who was getting value from the product, we built for them. Are you going through a pivot atm?
Congxing Cai
@gavin_hammar Thanks for sharing this. I am working on my first startup now. And, we are in the middle of testing several different apps that are on top of the same tech to find our real customers. Really glad to see your sharing to get a little more validation. Thanks!
Anil Meena
Agreed pivots are essential for startups. I think startups are all about running quick experiments and getting validation and then doubling down on what's working. We have pivoted once last year but that pivot has resulted in a good outcome. Another term I like to use is diverging and converging with experiments.
Mark Prutskiy
@anil_meena21, thanks for your story. How significantly did the last pivot affect results?
Anil Meena
@mark_prutskiy we were primarily focused on teacher earlier but after the pivot we widen our audience and then narrowed on coaches, mentors, and startup. Earlier we were building LMS but we pivoted to making an community platform instead.
Hyung Moon
I am new to the tech start up industry and absolutely agree with this sentiment. We have had to pivot several times in the last year alone due to obstacles and investor feedback. It is all ultimately for the greater and we are more confident than ever in the direction we are currently heading. There is anxiety and uncertainty at every corner but it seems empirically that every pivot we have made has brought us closer to the outcome we originally saw for our start up. Now we are gearing towards our public launch in the coming weeks.
Olivier Tolédano
Find its product market fit is not an easy thing. The ability to bounce back and challenge oneself is essential. We did 3 pivots in a few months. It is a lot but it was the only way to keep going. Fortunately, we were three and we coud have supported each other. Now we have found our sweet spot.
Mark Prutskiy
@olivier_toledano strong! Agree that it's cool to have many pivots if they help
Kailash Panday
Khatapana
Twice so far. We started out to build a solution to take the traditional mom and pop shops online in Nepal and felt a simple book keeping tool would be a necessary feature, in fact the USP. First pivot was towards building a reseller marketplace and finally we thought of building only the USP part of the first project and here we are with the first version of Khatapana to empower any individuals and small businesses in South Asia to keep records of their transaction in the simplest possible way.
Mark Prutskiy
@khatapana how is going the latest pivot? Thanks for sharing your story.
Kailash Panday
Khatapana
@mark_prutskiy The current pivot as I said was our USP earlier and it seems to be proving us right. We have just launched the basic version and all I can say is this is just the beginning.
None. I don't think I've ever pivoted in my life. I don't consider changing the targeted customer persona as a pivot. What sort of pivots did you have to make @mark_prutskyi ? We are reaching the end of our second year for https://skilledup.life - free talent for tech startups. No pivots. The path is very clear. Not easy, but clear.
Mark Prutskiy
@manojranaweera not many people I've seen without pivots. Congrats. We built a dating app for "find the people you bump into in real life" but users hacked the app and started to use it as "international dating" via a few functions in the app. So we pivoted to an "international dating app" and it's saved us.
@mark_prutskiy that makes sense and good reason for the pivot.
Sveta Bay
Slogan Generator
We made 2 pivots with a content product. It's always hard to make a final decision and admit that you need to change something. It's even harder to cross even a little part of the work. But it's better than making a useless product. The key insight is to talk with your target audience as soon as possible. Finally launched today MakerBox Frameworks and very happy with the customers' feedback on the final product! The pivot was a good decision! https://www.producthunt.com/post...
Mark Prutskiy
@basv great product and story! Upvoted :)
Fernando Cordeiro
Pluckd
I feel there are 3 kinds of pivot: you can change the problem you're solving, the solution, and the customer. I'm on my 2nd pivot and considering the 3rd one. The first time I pivoted was a total mess. I listened to some crummy advice from my accelerator and tried to simultaneously change the problem, the solution, and the targeted customer. The result was a mess. The value proposition was all over the place, there was little clarity, and because my user was not my customer, potential users had a tough time telling me they didn't want the thing I was working on. So the 2nd pivot was to reverse the first one and narrow down the problem I was solving. It was great. It was easier to communicate the problem and determine whether or not someone needed my product. Right now, I'm considering a 3rd pivot. It's tricky. I have a little bit of traction. I have a couple of customers. I'm like, "Maybe it'll work.". But I feel they wouldn't be too sad if my product ceased to exist tomorrow. Maybe there is a better customer persona to whom I should try to talk.
Mark Prutskiy
@fernando_cordeiro2 so cool story! Can we see your product?
Fernando Cordeiro
Pluckd
@mark_prutskiy Oh, sorry, it's pluckd.co
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