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Aaron O'Leary

Do you think Bing has a chance to challenge Google?

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Bing, since its release, was never taken seriously, I feel, at least not when compared to Google. Now with ChatGPT implemented and the potential to further integrate OpenAI into the Bing-sphere, do you think it has a serious chance to challenge Google?
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Marat
A lot depends on how good Google's response (Bard) is. While Google has a total stranglehold on search (93% market share), and people don't change their habits easily, anything is possible in tech so if Bing's collaboration with Open AI produces significant benefits for users vs. using Google search it's possible that Microsoft can mount a challenge. We've seen once-dominant companies quickly lose their dominance and become irrelevant in the past (MySpace, Nokia, Polaroid, etc.)
Deniz Can Ilgın
it depends, it is hard to change people's habits. But in the overall view, ChatGPT and Google have different audience segments.
🔨 Travis Page 🔨
@denizcanilgin I still know people in Tech who haven't heard of ChatGPT. I haven't heard of ANYONE who uses bing still.
Morgan Lucas
@denizcanilgin @travis_page Bing's one user here 🙋🏽‍♀️ It gives me gift cards in exchange for my search data. I'll use Google sometimes, but it's only taking my data under the guise of a 'better user experience'.
🔨 Travis Page 🔨
@denizcanilgin @runtcpip I have duckduckgo (bing search API) set as my default search engine on my phone and the search results are often so useless that I type in Google.com in the search browser.
Marat
@denizcanilgin @travis_page I'm always surprised by how many people, who work in tech, don't actually follow tech or use a lot of it in their personal lives.
Fabian Maume
Warmup Inbox
I was actually asking the same question in SEO topic: https://www.producthunt.com/disc... Getting an answer from ChatGPT is a different experience than a standard search: you need to write a full sentence rather than just a few keywords. So for many queries, I think that google will stay relevant. My main questions is: how will this impact the SEO industry?
Adam Lui
chatgpt.js
@fabian_maume this is not true, for example if you type 'wwii date' it will give you this: 'World War II (WWII) began on September 1, 1939, when Germany, under the leadership of Adolf Hitler, invaded Poland. The war ended on September 2, 1945, when Japan officially surrendered after the United States dropped atomic bombs on the Japanese cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.' If you use my plug-in DuckDuckGPT (featured 2 days ago) it will even show it in search sidebar: So clearly the query experience is same, but engine more powerful
Fabian Maume
Warmup Inbox
@adamlui Nice plugin. BTW: you can embed link to your product in your answer by using the key "!"
Steven Sun
LIKN
@fabian_maume I don't think it will impact the SEO industry, but it may bulid a new industry, AISO, hah, because ChatGPT may not provide correct answer but a understanding from robot.
Adam Lui
chatgpt.js
@fabian_maume Wow cool trick, lemme try it out! !DuckDuckGPT
Adam Lui
chatgpt.js
@fabian_maume I failed :(
Oleksandr Koreniuk
AISixteen
No, it has no chance. AI still struggles to cope with structured data analysis so the integration of ai as your qa assistant wont be more than a toy. However UI is cool, sometimes in the future backend would be replaced with AGI, and that will be a real game changer.
Elias Fares
Booomerang
I think they should have rebranded and launched with a new name. It's hard (or it takes a very long time) to change people's perception of a brand or name. People like ChatGPT and dislike Bing.
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moji AI wearable
@elifares Ya rebranding would defiantly make it feel fresher...
Elias Fares
Booomerang
@max15 Right!
Krishna Kumar
While Microsoft spent millions on Bing, they really did not have focus on the product. Their focus was on the operating system, Sharepoint, SQLServer and Office. Investment into OpenAI has been a big break for them, but will Bing benefit? I see a lot of OpenAi stuff getting into Office 365, SQLServer and even the Edge browser. In other words, Bing search engine may yet again get left behind. Even if the functionality gets integrated, the usage and focus will suffer.
Ioan Profiroiu
writeGPT
@kkumarkg Yes, totally agree. For example we just built a web extension on Google's search using OpenAI's capabilies. If you wanna check out how we're breaking the browsing unproductive habbits, here our PH campaign: https://www.producthunt.com/post...
Andreas Duess
Google has shittified the user experience for years in pursuit of profit. You have to wade through reams of ads and read thousands of words of SEO optimization just to, perhaps, find the answer to a question. That's a huge part of the reason why more and more people look at TikTok for answers instead of google. For me, the question isn't, will Bing challenge Google, the question is what should the next search UX look like.
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moji AI wearable
@andreasduess The way GPT-3 is currently implemented gives the impression that it is simply like an extension on Google Chrome.
Billy Oxley
No Bing’s UX is still laughably bad.
tiago
Cap
@billyharlow That's true
Sandra Djajic
I think that Bing have a great potential but people tend to stick with what they are already used to and that would be Google.
Jacob Jolibois
Making Product Sense
Genuinely, no I don't think so. Sure, Bard was a bust because it was released so quickly but Google has... - Dominant market share with Chrome for guaranteed distribution - Deal with Apple to be the default search engine on Safari which is the second largest browser after Chrome - 25 years of iteration to perfect their search algorithms which the LLMs are trained on which means better results - the term "Google" is equated with "search" in the zeitgeist. No matter how hard you try, that's gonna take a while to switch in people's minds. Bing has a few aces up their sleeves too though. I wrote about all of it here: https://www.makingproductsense.c...
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