quick thought on launch day, and a genuine question for this room
every to-do app fights over features .. tags, projects, dependencies, AI everything. but i think the real reason we abandon them sits way earlier: the 3 seconds between "i just remembered something" and it actually being saved.
that gap is where thoughts die .. you open the app, there's a form, a date picker, a dropdown, and by the time you're done you've half-forgotten why you opened it .. so you dump it in apple notes with a "sort later" that never comes, sound familiar?
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@lilhadi nice launch haider! how does the icloud sync latency compare to standard cloud databases when pushing tasks from iphone to mac instantly?
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@mohsinproduct honest answer: plain CloudKit for a private db isn't realtime the way firebase/supabase are .. no live socket, and apple throttles background sync to minutes .. so i built a custom fast-path on top that 🙌🏽
@lilhadi The "by the time I'm done I've half-forgotten why I opened it" line hit home — capture friction is the silent killer of every task app, and most makers optimize everything except that first 3 seconds.
Curious about one design decision: you parse messy shorthand in 9 languages, on-device. Was multilingual parsing part of the plan from day one, or did users pull you there? Asking because handling "nxt thrs" is one thing, but date shorthand conventions differ wildly across languages.
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heyy @mesut_tas my honest answer on languages: not day one, it started english-first and grew .. partly ambition, partly users typing in their own language and expecting it to just work
and you nailed the hard part 🙌🏽 "nxt thrs" is easy, it's the date conventions that are the minefield .. same input, different dates by locale .. the real work wasn't the UI, it was teaching it to read intent per language without guessing wrong
@lilhadi users typing in their own language and expecting it to just work" lol yes.. that's the most honest roadmap generator there is
and the minefield goes deeper than date formats btw. i ship in 6 languages and the nastiest bugs weren't even parsing, they were scheduling assumptions. "every monday" is trivial until monday is a public holiday in the users country and the thing fires anyway. or "next week" crossing a holiday cluster that means totally different things in turkey vs germany. ended up baking holiday awareness into recurrence itself.. thought it was a nice to have, turned out its the thing users mention most
respect for doing all this on-device, that constraint makes multilingual twice as hard. good luck with the rest of the launch man, youre clearly here for the right reasons
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@mesut_tas you just described a bug i haven't hit yet but absolutely will :')
respect right back, you clearly walked through the same fire .. good luck with yours 🙌🏽
The Siri-while-driving path is the one I'd stress-test hardest. Typed "gym mon wed fri 6am" is messy but the characters are at least what I meant; dictation stacks a transcription layer under the parse, so "meeting with boss two hours tomorrow at three" can go wrong twice before you ever see the preview, and driving is exactly when you can't glance down to catch a wrong 3pm/3am. Do you read the interpreted task back by voice on that path, or is the preview still visual-only? I build in a category where the user's hands and attention are both gone in the moment, and "confirm without looking" turned out to be a genuinely different problem than "confirm fast."
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@narek_keshishyan you actually found the exact gap .. today the preview is visual, so the one moment it matters most is the one it doesn't fully cover
siri reads back a confirmation, but not granular enough to reliably catch a 3pm/3am flip .. which is exactly the failure that actually hurts
and you're dead right that "confirm without looking" is a genuinely different problem than "confirm fast" .. i optimized hard for fast and quietly assumed eyes were available, reading the resolved time back by voice on that path is going straight on the list 💯 genuinely useful, thank you 🙏🏽
the on-device angle is what caught my attention reading through this thread, running decent NLU across 6+ languages locally is a real engineering constraint, not just a privacy checkbox. curious how big the parsing model ends up being and whether older iphones (like an SE or an iphone 12) handle it fine, or if you had to trim capability for lower-end hardware. also "holiday-aware recurrence" is a genuinely clever detail most to-do apps never bother with
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@galdayan on an SE or iphone 12 there's no apple intelligence anyway, so the everyday cases run through a lightweight deterministic layer that's basically instant with near-zero footprint .. handles them fine 🙌🏽
@lilhadi dude - the app looks great, the site is beautiful, but... why, oh WHY... do you seemingly have NO product shots on the homepage?!?
I totally get wanting to focus on the philosophy/ethos, here, but my good man - you built sexy tech, show it off, let folks know what they're getting into! :D
Congrats on the launch!!
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@grey_seymour ha :') you're 💯 right .. i got so deep in the "why" i forgot to show the "what"
product shots are going up!! thanks for the nicest kick in the pants i've had all launch 🙌🏽
The messy-input parser is the whole product here. I like that the capture path stays fast, but the trust layer is showing the interpreted date/repeat/reminder before it commits anything. Tiny Apple utilities live or die on whether they preserve flow without making the user wonder what just got scheduled.
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@krekeltronics exactly .. the sneaky part is the preview can't become its own friction .. it has to land before you look away 🙌🏽
Really like the focus on natural language instead of making people fill out forms and date pickers.
Curious.....what's the most surprising prompt PopTask has successfully turned into a task?
Wishing you a fantastic launch today! 🚀
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@worksforme thanks laibaa 🙌🏽 how about this one?
The natural language parsing actually works as advertised, typed "dentist thursday 2pm" and it just landed correctly without me double-checking. Living in the menu bar makes it frictionless to dump tasks throughout the day.
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@egemeniler26204 this is exactly the moment i built it for .. type it the way you'd say it and get back to work, no double-checking 🙌🏽 glad it's clicking for you