Sketch for Teams - Take design collaboration to the next level in the cloud

@mpavlukevich dude, $99 is nothing for a tool that you use to make a living...

@mpavlukevich Not even Product Hunt is free from trolling. Sketch is a totally stable product. Sketch is also cash flow positive, whereas Figma is all VC funded, with growing revenue. There are definite trade-offs and preferences amongst people, but the problems aren't easy to solve, especially when talking native apps.

@mpavlukevich I think people are willing to pay money for a tool if it's worth the cost. Sketch has been invaluable for years, but competitors are catching up. Adobe XD is free and can not only compete with Sketch on features, it's less buggy and is growing exponentially. I think their biggest mistake was not expanding to Windows, but also not fixing all of the bugs that have plagued Sketch for years now.

@mpavlukevich @josefrichter1 Correct, you need to pay people to build good shit.

@ahmet_bektes Abstract is probably the best version control tool for designers atm.

@ahmet_bektes Yep. Love it :)

we are also using Abstract but I think that in the long run this movement of Sketch can hurt Abstract..

@ahmet_bektes Sketch Teams is a generic implementation, I don’t think it will hurt Abstract for people using it in the way it’s meant to be used. But for teams that find Abstract confusing (or bogged down by slow commits) it could.

@ahmet_bektes We have been using for about 2 years and sadly have to say its progressively getting worse, our product has slowed heavily due to the resources required, and sync speed. also the cost for small teams is excessive.

@ridderingand_ I would've expected that, but it seems that there's no real-time collaboration and no annotations (comments which are tied to a certain element in the file).

@ohadisohad Their mini roadmap graphic shows that it's coming soon. How soon "soon" is? No idea lol.

@ridderingand_ @ohadisohad It's a beta, so expect more things coming soon :)

@ridderingand_ Yeah, it's always fun to play around with new toys.

@hunterbecton how do you use "real time collaboration" in ux/ui design?

@josefrichter1 You just design together in a single file and have no worries about overriding or working on something old. It just works without any effort.

@hunterbecton I agree. Feels like in the (not so distant) future you're either going to own the whole design workflow or own none of it. Which is the reason Invision invested so much into Studio. Tools like Zeplin, Abstract, Avocode, etc. will have less and less of a place.

@josefrichter1 @hunterbecton real time collaboration is also great when commenting on things... often it will trigger 2-4 ppl making small modifications while using Comments or slack to discuss. Basically an impromptu design review on in-progress work in small chunks of time. It’s not really for large scale collaborations, but being able to do real time collaboration completely changes how you use the tool and the team dynamic. Hard to really get it until you experience it. (Aside from avoiding the nightmare of managing multiple versions of files, which is an obvious pain).

@hunterbecton @josefrichter1 while it fell to the wayside, axure handled that very well. you could "check out" specific screens or masters from a file, allowing others to work on other parts of the same the file.

@emanuelsa @jesse_wallace I am with you. I would love to leave Abstract for an integrated solution with Sketch. Ideally would include task management as well.

@coreywstone you can do it, type the 0;0;0;0 in the input, where 0 is the corner value for (TOP, RIGHT, BOTTOM, LEFT)

@coreywstone @edumicro I think Corey meant a border outline, not a border radius?

@coreywstone @pablostanley good catch! I misread Corey comment :) Having a 1 side only border would be valuable. For now I usually hack those one-sided borders with shadows.

@coreywstone @edumicro Lol, me too!!! haha

@edumicro Ooh good idea on the shadow. I emailed Sketch to request that their Border Width field accept 4 values. :)