Does an AI based social network make sense (And would you use it?)
According to the Verge, Open AI is trying to create a new social network where people can share their creations produced by artificial intelligence.
Meta is also considering creating AI avatars for social media to drive engagement.
At first, I thought people would resist, but AI in social media is quickly becoming the norm.
Most content – images, texts, comments, even videos and DMs – is already AI-generated. On IG, YT, FB, TikTok, X and LI too.
Are you already fed up with the AI trend?
Or will the AI-social media concept prevail in the coming decades and be perceived as a normal part of our lives?
Last question: How do you see the whole thing around the OpenAI social media network?
[I think the next generations will be as familiar with this development as we are with the internet now. Completely normal thing.]
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1 thing you natural text is already used by x to train ai . Why would you willing go for a platform where you know it will be used by the founder to train AI, nope .
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@sietse_schelpe but don't you provide your texts to AI already now?
@busmark_w_nika yes , and no , when you wrote something 10 years ago , you did not relaize dat you would give your text to ai . so why would you now give it to ai without anything in return . they will earn on your text and you know it the moment you type. and this without any extra tools or anything
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@sietse_schelpe I think that we already do it with social media. I think they have enough information to aim their ads at us. Well, some laws and rules are different e.g. US law vs EU law, but anyway. I had that feeling they know me better than me.
@busmark_w_nika actually not all is ai , that is where you are missing some data. But yes , on some parts you are right
I think it definitely has a place.... as much as Producthunt has a place. The more people use AI the more we'll ignite each others creativity and push the limits... To give my personal analogy, I saw people making to do apps on the weekend with vibe coding AI tech and it partly inspired me to make one that allowed for list sharing and no need for login (removing all the barriers I found with other products) and BOOM..... I made https://ourlist.me/ (Launched on producthunt today if you would be so kind as to give it a look - and maybe even an upvote lol)
@labellepoubelle That's awesome! I love that you don't need to sign in. We don't need accounts for everything!!! I'm going to go up vote you ☺️ Random IDs is all we need. And if you really want to ban accounts while having accounts, you can generate private keys or use passkeys.
I took the same approach with Cook More, with the extra step of taking it fully offline. Sharing is done over Bluetooth so it can still connect, but user data never has to pass through me.
@appsforhumans Thank you for your comment! That's so dope! I love cooking, so I'll give Cook More a try :)
@labellepoubelle @appsforhumans This! Login screens instantly turn me off a product these days. Great apps by the way guys!
@appsforhumans @how_about_this_group Yeah, they're a real barrier to entry but I do understand if you're running a business, an email is the value you're exchanging for your service (in hopes of making money down the line)...
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@labellepoubelle I could see many AI-generated comments back then here and I didn't feel good to "Interact with bots". It felt so disrespectful.
@busmark_w_nika Wait til we start getting catfished by AI.... :'(
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@labellepoubelle 🥲 You haven't made me comfortable. 😅
Are you already fed up with the AI trend?
Oh yes, very much. We only need AI that will read all the AI posts and we can collectively go fishing.
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@dpx Can I remind you that we actually experienced this AI era from late 2023? :D And people don't seem to stop.
@busmark_w_nika Absolutely, I am using AI myself occasionally and it is very useful for some tasks. However it looks like we are on the verge of having fully closed circle: AI that writes stuff on say LinkedIn, and other AI that "reads" and likes/comments those new posts. Physical person that uses AI to post thinking that he/she has conscious following, other person that uses AI to maintain contacts thinking that he/she has good contact for potential business. AI talking to other AI, not much business going on in reality.
Or, could be missing step, what if those two persons also give credit cards to each AI, so they can trade with each other? (joking but at least 100% typed by actual physical person)
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@dpx If I had to put money into the "hands of AI", I would be pretty cautious and probably it would be a bank account with a limited amount.
I am fed up with the AI trend, not because I don't believe in AI, but because it feels so impersonal. I really want to embrace this technology, but it doesn't work for me. I must be bad at expressing my desires in words 😂 or the content it gives me tends to feel very "fake" or disingenuous.
I would be interested to try out the new platform. But I'm probably not the target audience.
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@appsforhumans Got you. It is interesting and innovative, but if someone uses it for interaction, it is soooo fake. No, thanks :D
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I would love to see it exist. I think we're at the dawn of this new art form. It'll be exciting to see people appreciate other's ideas and taste.
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@surajjha The question is whether those ideas will be really appreciated by people (and not by AI). AKA Fake engagement.
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@busmark_w_nika That would be annoying. But it could be interesting if these AIs had some kind of buying power. I'd have my AI market the hell out of them.
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@surajjha The thing is – how can these AI characters have buying power? Just through that "fake fatamorgana engagement" that could attract more real users?
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@busmark_w_nika Maybe it's that. Or maybe, in an agentic world, if you wanted your agent to do real-world things like real-world people, it would make sense to give them buying power and let them spend autonomously. They’d probably browse the web to find tools, hire agents to complete tasks, or even farm karma on social media for their master.
I’d market them then. 😂
I don't think we are quite there yet. The agents don't act like the people behind them. There are no personal agents that are really outstanding. We are missing a memory layer.
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@samhilsman Tried a few AI agents, and they remembered quite a lot. Let's be honest – people also have a short memory and forget very fast :)
Everything happening around AI and all this hype will eventually die down, not in the sense that everyone will simply forget, but it will become something ordinary and commonplace. The same will likely happen with the social network from OpenAI, which will probably integrate into our daily routine, just like the use of ChatGPT itself.
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@islam_akramov I believe that many people will doubt, but our future generations (children) will trust this system more – perhaps even more than people. Hopefully, we won't end up like in the Terminator. 😀🙈
Raycast
Considering Meta acquired @SocialAI and @Character AI is quite popular among a certain cohort, and ChatGPT and Claude are increasingly being used as therapists, it only makes sense that intelligences superior to many humans will end up aggregating in a digital social context.
Cynically, as Spotify attempts to get people to listen to ghost music to lower their artist royalty payouts, similarly, big social platforms would prefer to pay for content production in electrons rather than dollars.
Ultimately the means of content production will be commoditized, including social media through artificial intimacy.
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@chrismessina Assuming that people will spend even more time on social media with AI bots than with people, we will witness a lot of social distancing and problems in human communication will probably worsen (some speculators seize the opportunity and make a business from that).
Trangram
Like with any social media platform, anything that gets hype tends to become popular. AI helps in that sense, especially with its creativity. But as AI becomes more common, I think platforms that keep more of a real human touch will become more valuable.
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@derek_liu_dev Have already seen some groups that are paid and solely based on "human touch." Crazy times we are in – to pay for human presence :D
Trangram
then it does has value ... but in an unexpected way 🤷♂️, by the way, how can you tell if it is behind a group or not?
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@derek_liu_dev This is also a good question. But I know that people who interact there are real and do not make any fake engagement or answers. If they did, they would probably reply promptly :D
Rustic AI
Well I am 3 months late this question. But it's already there and people are using it like crazy. You might have used it too - X (twitter). Elon is crazy and he has really planned X that way. Grok is deeply integrated in the app replying, tagging and posting on X. People are engaging just fine. So if you want to see how will it evolve just check out X app. But important to note people will only trust any AI if it stands for Truth so don't think OpenAI/ Meta chatbots will have be able to see similar engagement. Well, maybe they will if their audience is primarily kids who care about fun more than Truth.
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@shashwat_verma2 a few days ago discussed that... it seems that AI characters and AI within social media are becoming popular among younger generations.
https://www.producthunt.com/p/general/is-interacting-with-ai-characters-becoming-the-norm-for-you-your-pov?comment=4755563