Ryan Hoover

What should we build at Product Hunt?

Next week most of the Product Hunt team is flying into San Francisco from around the world to plan our roadmap for the second half of 2019. We'd love to hear your ideas. What should we build? These could be completely new products or improvements to existing features. Feel free to get creative. There are no bad ideas. 😉
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Natalia Diacono
@rrhoover little product hunt for smaller communities :) One thing we are actively looking for at 'Station F' is to share products and know what our neighbour is working on, for two reasons, we might need it, we want to help each other grow or we could be a beta tester curator. To build this community is becoming quite challenging when there are 1.000 startups on the same campus, but I believe could be solved if we had the structure of PH, a well organized listing of products and also spaces to have discussions. PH right now is way too big, so if every little hub or rich ecosystem like ours could benefit on a smaller scale, I think we could build many useful communities using pH :) i sent you a DM with this proposal btw.
Ryan Hoover
@nataliad90 great suggestion. What kind of discussions would you expect to see inside something like this?
Natalia Diacono
@rrhoover We would like have this: 1. Products badged as 'Station F made', so each time I use this tag or label I can see all products from 'Station F'. and start using it, testing it, providing useful feedback as a member of this community 2. People with this badge as well, so I can know what's their feedback on the product, get them to be beta testers since they are around the corner, MAYBE i can grab coffee with them later, and perhaps to pre-launch products to only these profiles, before launching on PH. 3. Discussions for 'Station F' makers around other topics, like how we started the product, what tools have been useful for us...We are doing this already but on slack and sometimes gets out of control and is hard to follow :)
Kenny Alvizuris
@rrhoover @nataliad90 Sounds like a great idea!
Brendan Weinstein
@nataliad90 @rrhoover I see this all the time as there is a product hunt channel in virtually every digital community and slack group i am in. This is to simplify the noise and discuss more intimately with like minded individuals about the amazing products we find on PH. That being said, The PH platform should continue expanding in features and capabilities for users as this effort to create sub-communities only helps to boost the overall efforts and objectives of the Product Hunt team and communities. Not sure how you guys feel, just my 2 cents. Love to hear your thoughts..
Ferenc Forgacs
@rrhoover one thing I have in mind for a while now is that it would be great to somehow re-engage with the users who upvoted my product. This would be really useful to notify them about updates, new features. This could be an opt-in feature to avoid notifications spam. This is how I imagine it: - a maker launched on a product (version 1.0) - users liked it, upvoted it - after the upvote, there would be an option to subscribe to future updates related to that product - when a maker rolls out a new feature, she/he can attach a changelog to the product - this will trigger a notification to the users who subscribed to the updates Maker goals could be involved in the process if the changelog is automatically generated by completing a goal that was connected to the product. From makers perspective, it's great because they'll have the platform to reach their target audience without building their own database. It's also great for the subscribers because they can follow the evolution of their loved products.
Ryan Hoover
@feriforgacs good thinking! We actually tested a variation of this by surfacing a "subscribe to updates" button on the product page. We a/b tested 3 different variations but the engagement was very low. Less than 10% of the people that upvoted subscribed which resulted in too few a number for most makers to care. I believe there's an opportunity to achieve the goal you're articulating but we need to be thoughtful in how we can achieve this without creating noise.
Mohit M Ghate
@feriforgacs @rrhoover one of the things you guys can do is ask makers to give periodic 2 liner updates to their products and include those updates on the mails that you send out. It'll be super tough to segregate which updates go to whom but that can be built on the backend. Or you could just create a "updates on products" page with "products you upvoted" as a filter.
Marco Pariente-Cohen
@feriforgacs @rrhoover to me "subscribe to updates" seemed too vague and generic such that I thought it was going into an email list that would never get looked at ever again.
Marco Pariente-Cohen
@feriforgacs @rrhoover I'm thinking "Join the Maker [Name/product]'s Updates/beta group (to get in on the ground floor!)" with a mouseover triggered "I want in/let me in!" might garner more attention. It's much more context rich, engaging, and exciting.
Brendan Weinstein
@feriforgacs @rrhoover @markypc3 I think maybe upvote and "follow" could be two different ways to engage with a product. The way you follow a user, following products as well will subscribe to updates and new product releases of that product on PH. Thoughts??
Matthew Smith
@rrhoover *PH API* Selfishly I'd love the ability to have an API to put more specific product comments and ratings for products inside an app like Really Good Emails where we're reviewing email / messaging / marketing specific info. *Founder Guild*. I'd love to be a part of a very specific small group of people that maybe PH curates. I'd pay annual dues to that if it meant a small private network that was exclusive an could help build authentic relationships that help me grow as a founder, businessperson, etc. *Who Uses this Product* I'd like to know what businesses use that product and if possible what their experience is. *Who can help with this product* Some products need expert implementation or management. I'd like to know people who are available for hire in that space.
Ryan Hoover
@whale great suggestions! PH API – We recently updated the API to expose more functionality but you're right, we could expose more to support these use cases and others. Founder Guild – What would you look for in a group like this? I.e. what would you hope to get out of it and how might you interact with these people? Who Uses this Product – We're building something around this now. Stay tuned! ;) Who can help with this product – That's a clever idea. We're building something that touches on this but we might be able to extend our idea to support this use case. Can you give us an example of a situation where you wanted help or to pay someone for support?
Matthew Smith
@rrhoover API : 👍 Founder Guild: * Solicit experience and advise from non crappy people that aren't looking to "network" but to genuinely help each other. Well curated would be key. * Share recommendations for contractors who are not just talented, but good communicators, ethically strong, etc. Help with this product: * Who can help me implement a setup with Vero, or Segment? (Contractor or potential hire) * Who can help our team get setup with Phrasee? (contractor) * Who can teach my team more about how to use Notion to it's best effect and provide us with templates? (Consulting)
Kevin Guebert
@rrhoover one thing I experienced this past week was going back through all my old upvotes and "rediscovering" products that I had upvoted. I was searching for a product that I knew I upvoted a while back but was having trouble finding it. Along the way while scrolling I kept on opening up older products and checking them out again. I think there could be improvements around this organization of previously upvoted products, resurfacing older products, and searching/filtering products to find ones that I know I upvoted.
Ryan Hoover
@kevinguebert related to this: we have this semi-hidden feature for time traveling through Product Hunt: http://producthunt.com/time-travel
Ignácio R. Correia
@rrhoover products have different lifecycle stages, is not fair for a beta product be competing with 10 year old upgrades. We all know that every single iPhone is going to be product of the day, we don't need producthunt for that, as your name says, we are hunting for the next big thing :) so my suggestion is to have a beta product of the day, 1rst release product of the day. Another thing is a way to launch upgrades so the community could FOLLOW a product. This will allow to use your platform to engage with possible customers. Adding a change-log to the product would allow to notify the followers. Any of this would be great for ProductHunt. Jobs, events, ask is not the path I would go but I understand why you do it.
Ryan Hoover
@igcorreia good thoughts. We've experimented with some of these ideas already but I believe our execution was off.
Merrill Reisemberg
@rrhoover @igcorreia there are some great ideas here
Paul Danyliuk
@rrhoover @igcorreia Totally agree. Plus, this should give more incentive for people to actually launch and support their product, not launch and sunset in like a month.
Ignácio R. Correia
@rrhoover @paul_danyliuk specially does 1 week sprint projects :/
Yoginth
@rrhoover Upload images in makers goals! WIP.chat and Makerlog has it so please implement it!
Ryan Hoover
@yoginth thanks for the rec! What type of images would you upload?
Yoginth
@rrhoover I usually upload Screenshots, Foods etc You can look on Pieter Levels account on WIP.chat https://wip.chat/@levelsio he upload tons of images!
Shreyas Adiyodi
@rrhoover This maybe a bit wacky but ability to buy and sell products?
Ryan Hoover
@shreyasadiyodi1 wacky is good! What type of products are you imagining? Physical products? Software? Comlete businesses?
Shreyas Adiyodi
@rrhoover something like flippa?
Cindy Au
@rrhoover 1) Riffing on something @anildash shared on twitter this week, but a lot of product/business advice can prove unhelpful (or flat out wrong) if it doesn't share strongly aligned context. Would be cool to have some way to use a series of objective qualities (product type, stage, size, subject matter) with more qualitative goals in order to match founders/makers into smaller, highly-contextual cohorts who can lean on each other for support in a more ongoing way.
Ryan Hoover
@anildash @shinyee_au great point. Whenever I share "advice" I add a giant asterisk as my experience or other factors (like market timing) may not be as relevant to the recipient and what they're trying to do.
Sharath Kuruganty
@rrhoover, PH is an amazing platform for featuring products, how about having a platform for makers while they are building the products? Would love to see a video platform for makers who work remotely on a single product! Also how about supporting no-code makers with a platform where they can consume PH data? Thoughts?
Ryan Hoover
@5harath appreciate all your support over the months (years?), Sharath. As a viewer, what would you like to see in video? Any examples of this that have stood out to you?
Sharath Kuruganty
Maybe a combination of loom and periscope 🤔 Also what are your thoughts on the mobile app? Given we all live in mobile first world. I sometimes visit PH to view/upvote/comment on my phone. Thoughts? PS: It's been 2.5 yrs I'm using PH and I learned a ton from you and the community. Thanks for doing this. I'm here as a maker because of the love and support from PH community ❤️❤️❤️
Ryan Hoover
@5harath 🤗🤗🤗
Dominic Bouchard
@rrhoover I like the product hunt online coworking space. I think it has lots of potential giving the number of people (like me) who works remotely. A few suggestions (which Im sure you already thought about) -Something better than the chrome plugin. Always having a new tab open isnt the best. -chat room -Profile/photo -Different channel/room to communicate? -capacity to make friends etc. -Ability to share work, give feedback, suggestion ** the pomodoro is cool but I actually only use it to share what I m working on. Its always the first thing I ask in co working space or when I work with other people "what are you working on?"
Ryan Hoover
@dbouchard2 thanks for this. I like your suggestion to create rooms to communicate. We want to explore this further and expand upon Maker Spaces which isn't fully baked right now.
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