Coffice City

Inter-galactic city guide for the top 10 best coffices

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Inter-galactic city guide for the top 10 best coffices

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Inter-galactic city guide for the top 10 best coffices (cafe-as-an-office) to get real shit done. For digital nomads & remote workers

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IMO this is a great idea. It reminds me of a Google doc that was passed around our coding bootcamp of the best places to cafes study in SF. As someone else said I'd totally remove the block of text. Also the emojis + card UI makes it feel like a nomad list knock off. The main challenge seems like it would be collecting enough data for this to be useful I would love to see this take off though! What determines whether you build this up more or move to the next project?

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7yr ago

Coffice City

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@air_on_web oh nice, do you want to add some of those cafes in SF into the list? 😉 Yes collecting data is the hard part, and I can't do it alone neither can I scrape because this requires human curation in a way. Not all cafes are created equal for remote work unfortunately... Tell me more about the block of text...is it too long? Too much explanation? I feel like I need to explain what it's about because it's for quite a niche purpose, yet folks are saying drop it, so trying to figure out what's the sweet spot... I kinda like the emoji though. It was fun using it and increasingly I find more and more sites adopting it as a visual language. It was directly inspired from nomadlist so I don't mind coming across as a knock-off, if that helps to give credit to the original inspiration! 😊 Like they say, "Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery." Haha I'll keep building it as suggestions come in, at least for the next few months. Will have to course-correct as I go...not sure how this will pan out. Tbh I didn't even expect it to get featured on PH!

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7yr ago

@jasonleowsg Yeah I think the amount of upvotes you got is definitely validation of the idea. That's the go-ahead that it will probably be worth your time to keep building! Ok, this is just my $0.02 as a FE engineer: Re-text: you have an shorter window of time than you think to capture users and the block of text is noise. The 2 most important things seeing the list of coffee shops, seeing the ratings (best wifi/ best coffee) somehow both of these take multiple clicks to get to, and I couldn't find the ratings breakdowns (not sure you've built that yet) Also in the spirit of efficiency / UX, I think also featuring coffee shops by continent is cute, but it's not useful. The best thing you could possibly do is geo-identify where the user is and just point them at coffee shops in their city. It's not really like nomad list where you'd browse coffee shops in other cities before you go. Data collection: I say just totally open it up like the wild west and clean it up later. Let people add whatever. I'd happily add those SF coffee shops if there was a way to add a LOT of coffee shops FAST but new tabs keep opening, and I'd keep having to hit submit, re-navigate, etc. Design: I think the design is good for an MVP. All the best designs I think are inspired by something else then evolve over time. Keep iterating though There's really so much you can do with this: upvotes, downvotes, comments, game-ifying it in different ways. I'm excited for you and will be following, stick with it!

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7yr ago

Coffice City

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@air_on_web oh wow thanks for all the ideas! Good points on the text, geolocation and upvotes etc. Will keep in view in backlog!😊 Re: ratings: Yes, i left out the details because ALL the listed cafes have them: 📡hi-speed wifi, 😍work-friendly, ☕️coffee, 🚾toilet nearby, 🔌sockets, 🚶some standing desks, 🔇mostly quiet. This is a bit of a different kind of list unlike Yelp/Tripadvisor, where you see different ratings for different criteria. Instead all cafes have to pass the test of fulfiling all/most of the key criteria before it's posted. That's why there's only at most 10 cafes listed. There's many cafes out there but not all good for serious work. To get on the list, I always ask contributors if it fulfills all the criteria, and if it's a place they had personally worked at before for 4h or more. In sum, it's already a strictly curated list, so all the work of deciding and selecting is done for the user, and the user only needs to choose the location. Re: data collection - I'm allowing entries now but concerned about opening it up completely because it's the tight curation that makes this list useful. I wanna use a cafe that other nomads had worked at before and like working at. But you're right too, in sense that if it's not opened up, it'll be hard to scale. I'm already finding it challenging manually keying in all the suggestions! 😅

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7yr ago

Hmm I think what this list lacks is more details about these cafes in the sense that are these places actually open for people to be sitting there hours having just ordered a cup of beverage? Is there wifi? Charging? etc. etc. I don't know about the list but I'm quite sure some of places listed under Singapore isn't exactly conducive for working or as you would say, getting shit done.

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7yr ago

Coffice City

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@swiftpolar nice to see someone also based in Singapore here! Yes, i left out the details because ALL the listed cafes have them: 📡hi-speed wifi, 😍work-friendly, ☕️coffee, 🚾toilet nearby, 🔌sockets, 🚶some standing desks, 🔇mostly quiet. This is a bit of a different kind of list unlike Yelp/Tripadvisor, where you see different ratings for different criteria. Instead all cafes have to pass the test of fulfiling all/most of the key criteria before it's posted. That's why there's only at most 10 cafes listed. There's many cafes out there but not all good for serious work. To get on the list, I always ask contributors if it fulfills all the criteria, and if it's a place they had personally worked at before for 4h or more. In sum, it's already a strictly curated list, so all the work of deciding and selecting is done for the user, and the user only needs to choose the location. I work remotely and had personally been to and worked long hours at all the cafes listed in the Singapore page These are places I want to go back to. *Curious: Which ones listed on the page have you worked at and you feel are not conducive?

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7yr ago

@jasonleowsg Not specifically those that is on the list but I've had sat in cafes that were really busy and you kind of feel that you shouldn't just be sitting there? Maybe it's just me. Ah I didn't know that all the places listed met those criteria. Makes sense then. Didn't really read through the site but went straight to see what's there listed in Singapore :)

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7yr ago

Coffice City

Maker

@swiftpolar yeah I had the same experiences too of working at cafes where you're not welcomed or too busy/distracting. Not a good feeling, and bad for productivity. Out of that frustration came this list. Your comment made me think about how I can make this point clearer and more upfront, without having to read through blocks of text!🤔 Btw I wrote more about why I made this list here, if you're interested in the back story: https://jasonleow.sg/652/creatin...

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7yr ago

Coffice City

Maker

Hi Product Hunters! Some back story first: I’m tired of myself talking about making products but never actually doing it. It’s always been my dream to make products, especially ones that serve the public good and create positive social impact. It’s my passion and purpose to create a personally meaningful body of work at the intersection of design, social/public issues and entrepreneurship. So I’m committing to make 1 minimum viable product per month, starting Feb 2018. I’ll keep going till I run out of ideas or money, or something takes off in a huge way that requires all my time, or exhaustion kicks in. Whichever comes first. #1mvp1month For my 6th MVP, I made a list called Coffice City that shows the top 10 best cafes (aka cafe-as-an-office or ‘coffices’) for working in major cities around the world (and the galaxy too) – places for digital nomads and people who need to do serious work but have no need for co-working spaces. I’m really picky about which cafes count as work-friendly, and these are the ones I would go back to again and again. After all, I don’t need to know 100 cafes available out there which are work-friendly but sub-par for serious remote work. All I wanted was just a handful that I want to keep going back to. All the cafes listed are/have 📡hi-speed wifi, 😍work-friendly, ☕️coffee, 🚾toilet nearby, 🔌sockets, 🚶standing desks, 🔇mostly quiet. Read more about why I made this 👉here. These city guides for coffices are a 🚧work-in-progress🚧, and need folks who frequent coffices to contribute! I hope this can eventually be extended to other major cities around the world, perhaps through crowdsourcing via other digital nomads. One cafe or two, nothing is too little. Please suggest a cafe/city 👉here👈. This is also my first experiment that’s focused on creating for an audience of one, for myself, for fun (read my previous post on my too-serious *ahem boring* projects and about making ‘useless’ things for fun). Coffice City was made entirely from a Google Sheet using Sheet2Site. Kudos to @AndreyAzimov for making Sheet2Site.

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7yr ago

Hustle Crew Academy

@andreyazimov @jasonleowsg nice! would be great to have a clearer call to action for suggesting cafes on the site, when I clicked Europe to find some in London there's only one listing in Sofia. Would be nice if there was a big button right there asking me to suggest some 😊

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7yr ago

Coffice City

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@abadesi thanks for the feedback. Yeah, London city guide is not built yet because I'd never worked at cafes there, so will need help from other nomads. Hmmm🤔 there's a "Add a cafe" button right in the middle of the page when you first arrive, and at the bottom there's a blank entry (where a city/cafe should be) that says "Add a place"... I'm guessing those were not obvious to you...where should I have placed the button instead?

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7yr ago

CryptoTajines

@andreyazimov @jasonleowsg I'm tired too of myself... What should I do?

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7yr ago

Coffice City

Maker

@ucefkh don't over-think it...just ship! 😊👍

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7yr ago

Hi there. Love the idea of 1MVP a month. You must be very creative. Checking to see if you have one scheduled for September or if I could possibly indulge you with my idea I'm going to an accelerator for? Let me know. Thanks

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7yr ago

Coffice City

Maker

Thanks @quin_caylor. I'm not settled on one for Sept yet, still in process of thinking it through a few shortlisted ones. Appreciate the offer but I'm unlikely to have bandwidth for other projects at the moment!😅

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7yr ago

I don't like it when users leave critical reviews with no text. So the site/product is not good but you don't want to spend a second explaining why? It shouldn't be allowed

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7yr ago

Coffice City

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@footer yeah I agree too. I had seen where some profiles looked pretty suspicious - where there's little/no followers or upvotes activity, but they decide to leave one critical review on a product and then disappear.🤔

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7yr ago

Coffice City

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Hi @joepvanleijsen @jcserracampos @mercedesramoscatalina, saw that you gave a thumbs down review for Coffice City. Care to share why? Love to hear your opinion. 😊

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7yr ago

@jcserracampos @mercedesramoscatalina @jasonleowsg Sure! First of all, all I could think of is "this is a straight copy from NomadList, but a very poor one unfortunately". I see too much clutter (the intro text with all icons is just way too much for me), also there's not a lot of content to explore, you ask people to add a cafe before they even can see what the platform is all about (I would get rid of the "Add a cafe" button in the header) and most importantly I don't see the value of using it. Sorry!

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7yr ago

Coffice City

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@jcserracampos first of all, I'm proud to say that I got loads of inspiration from Nomadlist. So credits to levelsio. If it looks similar, it's intentional and I have no shame about it. Why? Because the layout works and I'm learning from the best. Good point about the text. More than a few had mentioned it, so that's something I'll fix for sure. It sounds like you're not the target user. It's ok. Thanks anyway for the feedback.

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7yr ago

BorderWait

Seems nice! I have tried to use a few of this websites during my travels and I would like to give a tip to all those that are seeking a place to work a bit from! Go to a library. They are everywhere, mostly free, with great wifi, quiet and with a great work mood!

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7yr ago

Coffice City

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@duiker101 thanks for the tip! Yeah I considered adding libraries too to the list, as in Singapore, the public libraries are like co-working spaces. But in the end I left it out because I like to be able to drink coffee and eat snacks while I work, and libraries usually have rules against that unfortunately...if you know any library that allows coffee+food, let me know! 😊👍

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7yr ago

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