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YouTube takes on the cable TV providers

#3 Product of the MonthMarch 2017



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Ryan Hoover@rrhoover · Founder, Product Hunt
"Stream ABC, CBS, FOX, NBC & more. Never run out of DVR storage space. 6 accounts, 1 price. $35/month. Cancel anytime." Is it just me or does "DVR" sound incredibly antiquated? DVR was always a hack to get around the real-time broadcast schedule. That said, I'm definitely interested in this as someone who hasn't had cable/satellite TV since I moved out of my parent's house.
Ryan Marr@ryanmarr · Product Manager,
@rrhoover Agree re:DVR. Do I need to schedule a recording? Seems nuts.
Jeff Fedor@jfedor
@rrhoover could've been worse. They could've said "tape as many shows as you want"
Jimmy DouglasHiring@jimmydouglas · Cofounder @Trakt 📺
@rrhoover DVR antiquated? Yes, but it's something that the average consumer understands.
Ryan Hoover@rrhoover · Founder, Product Hunt
@jimmydouglas true. Same reason why Apple calls it a "Watch". 😬
David@miscalzoncillos · UX Designer at Telefónica I+D
@rrhoover DVR is a solution to can save contents without infringing the distribution rights agreement... because the "live" and "VOD" have a different distribution rights. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Jerry Becker@beckerjs · All Around Good Guy
@jimmydouglas @rrhoover : I wonder if in the future they'll drop the "DVR" and just say "storage"
Mario G. Ishikawa@marioishikawa ·
@rrhoover it seems totally antiquated to me too. Specially cloud-DVR when the concept should be to watch on demand previously aired content.
Matt Gardner@thatmattgardner · Co-Founder,
@rrhoover I assume this is an interim step until the digital distributors have the upper hand. Then this can shift to "on demand any show that ever aired on these channels: ____"
Can Comertoglu@cancom10 · Product @OneDrive (prev: Vimeo, Amzn)
@rrhoover DVR is just a familiar name for "watch a program after it's live hours". I'm sure they're going to do things that scale (meaning, they'll create stand alone versions of each "show" and users can watch it on-demand, probably using Google Ads over the ads actually shown on the network)
Brian Lee@kay0stheory · code monkey @ theymadethat
@jimmydouglas @rrhoover Well the average cable consumer is around 50. I'm siding with Ryan on this one. >In 2015, broadcast median ages continue to rise, with CBS at 59, ABC and NBC at 54, Fox at 49, and CW at 44. Roughly 45% of all ad-supported cable networks measured by Nielsen have median ages of 50 or higher.
Jimmy DouglasHiring@jimmydouglas · Cofounder @Trakt 📺
@kay0stheory I don't disagree. I think YouTube wants to sell this to as many people as possible, including those people who are 50 years of age, or more.
Stefan Von Imhof@divineprofit · Senior Product Manager, HG Data
@rrhoover Beats saying, "Never run out of space on your TiVo!"
Aviv Junno@avivjunno
@rrhoover I think this is more Youtube TV then Youtube TV :D
Matt@mzuvella · Director of Marketing @ FamePick
@rrhoover it was a pure marketing play against Directv Now which doesn't have a recording option
Rick Ellis@aysrick · Founder,
@miscalzoncillos @rrhoover And there are a lot of unanswered questions about the DVR function. On most of the competitors, the DVR function only saves a recording for 28 days. Why that length? Because the content owner has to sign off on the DVR option and they are willing to do it for a month because that is the maximum length in which ratings/views can be tracked/monetized. An L+30 view isn't ideal, but it's still possible for a network/studio to make some money from it.
Noah Kim@wuss · in progress ▓▓▓▓▓▓░░ 80%
@rrhoover I'm thinking DVR is just what people understand. Take Playstation Vue, they also call it "cloud DVR", but in reality you're just tagging shows that you want to keep for 28 days that Playstation already has ondemand. You just can't view it unless you explicitly add it to "My shows".
Michael Doran@sempervigilius
@rrhoover They need to be more specific. I recently cut the cord so this interests me. I bought the Channel Master DVR+, and have a Sling subscription, but Sling won't let you record its shows. you have to stream them live. When Youtube says never run out of DVR storage space, what DVR is that? Do they have one in the cloud?
Andrew@arotheram · Cofounder, MenuEssense
I love this idea! Sadly, I'm sure it won't be available in Canada!
Paul Hart@roamlocally · Oxygen Consumer
@arotheram same for Australia... 😕🤘🤔
Maury Rubin@maury_rubin · Biz analyst @ Corporate Knights
@arotheram agreed. I would absolutely sign up when it comes day 🙏
Jonny MacEachern@jonnymaceachern · Developer
@arotheram Just wait a decade like we did for Spotify.
Zaigham @zedsq · Z
@arotheram I am hoping that they roll it out up here the same time they do Google FI ;)
Andrew@arotheram · Cofounder, MenuEssense
@zedsq it's FI dead?
Zaigham @zedsq · Z
@arotheram nope. It's supposed to be launching in Canada this year.
Niv Dror
@nivo0o0 · Words @ProductHunt & @AngelList
YouTube takes on the cable TV providers! • $35 a month. • 6 users can watch on their own devices simultaneously. • Unlimited Cloud DVR. • More to come! Per YouTuber @PhillyD who is at the event
Daeshawn Ballard@imdaeshawn · Marketing Director, Imagine Careers
@nivo0o0 @phillyd Amazing! A billion hours watched per day, plus cable TV and DVR. That's some scary competition.
Chintamani Chintadripettai@kewlking · chief soul-searcher,
@nivo0o0 @phillyd AWESOME! What is the rollout timeline?
Ryan Jenkins@ryanthejenks · Product Manager, Degreed
@nivo0o0 @phillyd No Food Network. :(
Nifemi Oluyemi@nifeoluyemi · Creator WorkBag, IvanaSketch
@nivo0o0 @phillyd will this come with as a hardware or we just continue streaming the same way as live videos ?
Daylen@askdaylen · Student and Windows Insider in Vancouver
@ryanthejenks @nivo0o0 @phillyd Here is the full list of major channels, which are missing from the service (from USA Today): Turner channels, including CNN, Cartoon Network and TNT, the Viacom networks, including Comedy Central, MTV, VH1, and Nickelodeon, Scripps (Food Network and Home and Garden) and HBO.
Alessandro Mannino@zuppadisange · Product Manager
@askdaylen HBO doesn't come with regular cable either, it's always an extra cost and YouTube TV subscribers can get it separately. All those other channels I'm sure will be on there soon unless they've lost it.
Rick Ellis@aysrick · Founder,
@askdaylen @ryanthejenks @nivo0o0 @phillyd Also the Discovery Networks (Discovery, Animal Planet, TLC). My guess is that YouTube TV will eventually include at least some of these on separate add-on programming tiers.
Jimmy DouglasHiring@jimmydouglas · Cofounder @Trakt 📺
Too bad nobody loves the feeling of cancelling Comcast. Oh, wait!
Jimmy DouglasHiring@jimmydouglas · Cofounder @Trakt 📺
The team would like to integrate, STAT. Are there any YouTube TV peeps on here who get us in touch?