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What a great idea! We at RydeMyPony totally endorse coming up with funny fake slogans for real startups, it´s just as much fun as coming up with fake slogans for fake startups! #TheAirbnbForPonies
Too bad the time spent on this app will actually diminish Silicon Valley´s output over the next 2 years by 3-4 unicorn startups! :-)
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Wow I'm loving this
- wish I could search for companies
- wish the company list didn't refresh to the top every time I tap a company
- doesnt featuring the same pitches in the home screen sorted by most votes become a self fulfilling profecy?
- wouldn't that make bandwagoning the best "investment" strategy?
@gerbz We LOVE user feedback. You rock! There are a ton more features we want to build, and your input helps us to prioritize. Please keep it coming. You can continue to comment here and/or email feedback@lemonade.io
@gerbz Glad to hear you like it Greg!
Thanks for the feedback. Totally agree with you, but here are my thoughts:
1. Company search is definitely on our list, and hopefully we'll sneak it into the next update. We just had to leave out some features to build the first version quickly.
2. I agree the list refreshing is really annoying, but it's mostly because of how Swift does paging. We'll look for a fix to that.
3. The Global Feed on the homescreen is All-Time for now but we plan to change it to Daily, similar to PH. We always imagined it being daily but we made it All-Time so new users would see the best content and get the hang of it. Also, we imagine people using the Following Feed as their main feed and we're making it the default in the next version.
4. The way we reward money does a pretty good job to protect against that. The very best way to make money is to write pitches and get upvotes on those pitches. You do make money when other people invest in pitches you invest in, but that amount is much smaller. Also, it's set up so that people who invest early in pitches get way more points than people who invest later on.
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@preetangad@dawncardon - cool - I certainly have more feedback/ideas/questions for you =) Completely understand the need to prioritize and LAUNCH. And glad you did.
- Before pulling the trigger on making the following stream the main stream, seriously look at how people are using the app. Me personally, I haven't followed a single person, and don't really plan to. This app seems more about collective creativity than individual based.
- Consider adding a stream of new pitches, sorted by newest at the top. I personally would enjoy flipping through that, especially after seeing what's trending today. Reddit figured this out. Its how discovery happens. Also, this would be a fun way to be the "first money in" and award people for being the first investor =)
- Why the conscious decision to not give any insight into how much money you're making for each action? Difficult to come up with an "investment strategy" without knowing what earns what.
- For the leveling to be more effective, I need to know what actions to take to reach the next level.
- Didn't realize that I "own" the companies I added. I thought I was just contributing to the list. How do you deal with duplicates?
@gerbz Love how deeply you're thinking about this, and I totally agree with you.
1. The following feed is much cooler than simply pitches by people you follow. If you write a pitch for a company, you'll see every new pitch for that company in your feed. If you follow a user, you'll see all the things they invest in. Technically, new users are supposed to automatically follow @FunderGame on sign up but Parse has been unreliable on that so we're fixing it. We're using the @FunderGame account to upvote things that are new and noteworthy, so highly recommend following it.
2. The feed has been the heart of the discussion for us and I agree it's a lot of work to get right. We didn't just want to add a 3rd feed because we think people simply won't check that many feeds to it's about covering it in 1-2 feeds. We looked at the "New" feed on Yik Yak/Reddit/Twitter and decided against it but will consider it again.
3. We think giving away the detailed breakdown of how to make more money or how to level up takes away from the fun of writing and investing in pitches and just becomes about optimizing for getting more money. Once you write a few pitches, we found that people were coming back to actually write and read pitches and the money is not the main incentive anymore, which is ideal. That said, if you really want to figure out how much money each action is worth, it's pretty easy to do. As for levels, once you get past the first few onboarding levels, it's just based on how much money you have.
4. The "owning" companies element is something we've focused less on after our beta testing and we definitely want to deemphasize it. There's a sweet new feature coming in the next version that replaces that space on your profile with something much much cooler! For now we deal with duplicates manually, but we can always build a feature that guards against that.
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@preetangad Deep, you haven't seen deep... =)
- I was wondering why I was seeing new pitches in my following feed from people I wasn't following. The fact that I'm auto following the companies I pitched helps make sense of that.
- Consider every pitch starting with 1 vote from yourself, otherwise I just upvote my own pitches, why wouldn't I?
- Ideally, I still feel like if I'm making all this money, I should be putting it to work. I could have a Net Worth & Cash amount. Investing in a pitch should ding my cash. Otherwise... why not invest in EVERY pitch?
- If upvoting is investing, then is downvoting stealing a startup's lunch money?
This is a solid idea, Angad. The ecoystem seems a little convoluted though.
Shouldn't you have to invest some of your money in the pitch, otherwise, why not upvote everything?
I think there's a lot of opportunity for this to be game-ified and go viral, but the system of rewards seems like it needs some clarification.
@bencbernstein Thanks for the feedback! We thought long and hard about whether to make an investment 'cost' users and decided against it because we didn't want to penalize this core form of engagement.
Please keep the product input coming. I'd love to know what you mean by convoluted. Could you give an example? You can continue to comment here and/or email feedback@lemonade.io
@bencbernstein We realize that intuitively you would expect to sink some money every time you invest in a startup, but we don't want to disincentivize people from voting.
People upvoting everything is obviously not ideal from the data collection perspective, but we can easily identify users who do that in our data analysis. On the other hand, there's nothing wrong with rewarding users who are engaging with the app, and giving love to other users :D
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@preetangad@bencbernstein I actually didn't realize that voting was investing until I received a notification mentioning it.
@gerbz@bencbernstein Yeah, we used to explain that in the onboarding but no one reads the onboarding anyway, so we used notifications to teach that behavior :D
@madspacer Thank you I really appreciate it!
For now, the home feed is based purely on most upvoted, but that's just to show the best content on the app even if it's old. We'll switch to something better in the next couple days to keep surfacing new content :)
@avizuber Hey Avi, thanks for the compliment! Sorry we're iPhone and iPad only for now, but you can follow the action on the web at funder.lol or steal a friend's iPhone :D
@preetangad@bencbernstein even if your goal is meaningful data collection rather than virality, i think that unless you tune this core mechanic to make it more strategic, it won't reach a wide audience because the risk/reward system doesn't feel well balanced to me.
i'd be happy to talk more about this on chat or share some of our experiences making games at burningflowers. again, think the concept is great and the product is robust.
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