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Ben Tossell@bentossell · Community Lead, Product Hunt
Start the timer... When will it be taken down?
@bentossell I give it 24 hours
Ken Rossi@kenrossi · CardStack
@bentossell why doesn't someone build this as an actual app? Wouldn't that solve the issue?
Britain Green@britaingreen · Front-end Developer, Iluminere
@kenrossi Already exists.
Martin Bavio@mbavio · Full Stack Designer
@kenrossi @bentossell I think the point of this release is to prove the power of torrents-time, the technology behind the site. It doesn't matter if the site is taken down, anybody can now grab that tool and make a thousand hydras of torrent-streaming websites.
Shane Turner@shntrnr · Shane vs. Art
@raudaschl @bentossell give it 25 hours
Leo Villaverde
Hunter
@ldvillaverde
@mbavio I Agree
Sam Doshi@samir_doshi · Co Founder @ Relayo.com
@bentossell EXACT THOUGHTS
@shntrnr @bentossell its already beaten by estimate.
John Ramirez@johnramirez
@mbavio true, love the power of torrent-time, but its revolutionary concept will only be realized if a great many ppl/devs started using torrent tech for every kind of media on websites, mobile apps etc. Can't see that + those tools are not their yet for the average user either.
sharda rekha@freedom0speech · Office Manager
@kenrossi @bentossell it was an app, until was taken down.
Raul Riera@raulriera · I make things
Requires your system password to install the plugin... what could go wrong? :)
Aaron Crocco@aaroncrocco · Writer, Nerd, Delorean Driver, Coffee.
Once again, Product Hunt condones piracy. Seriously people: PAY FOR YOUR CONTENT!
Tim Vermeulen@tim_vermeulen · Student
@aaroncrocco Unfortunately, there is no legal alternative to Popcorn Time with the same content and ease of use.
Aaron Crocco@aaroncrocco · Writer, Nerd, Delorean Driver, Coffee.
@tim_vermeulen I think you would be hard pressed to prove these movies and TV shows are not available to stream via rental or purchase through a legal service. While some content may be spread out (iTunes, Netflix, Hulu, etc) that does *not* mean there's "no legal alternative". If $5 to rent a movie is too expensive for you, I suggest you go to your local library, which is free.
Ben Tossell@bentossell · Community Lead, Product Hunt
@aaroncrocco we don't... it was submitted and upvoted by the community
Aaron Crocco@aaroncrocco · Writer, Nerd, Delorean Driver, Coffee.
@bentossell Fair enough but where is the PH team's input on this? I just said the same thing to Ryan on Twitter. The reason it's frustrating is that Product Hunt is an awesome site and I'm an author that creates for a living. So to see posts like this perpetuate the idea that creative content is allowed to be free pokes at a deep conviction. I have no problems with people wanting to consume movies, shows, books, music, etc, but when everyone believes the work put into creating those things should be free is where I have a big issue. It's a huge reason why many authors I know will forever have day jobs because people piracy outnumbers sales by massive margins.
Ryan Hoover@rrhoover · Founder, Product Hunt
We don't condone piracy -- this and others like it, are submitted and upvoted by the community. But I do 100% agree with you that people should pay for great content. I'm hopeful alternative business models succeed (e.g. monthly subscriptions via Spotify or Netflix, advertising-based revenue through YouTube) in compensating creators and providing an acceptable experience for consumers. On a related note, have you seen other creative models working?
Aaron Crocco@aaroncrocco · Writer, Nerd, Delorean Driver, Coffee.
@rrhoover Look at what HBO has done with HBO now. They listened that people wanted GoT and other shows and it's worked great. I think the fact that shows also place clips on YouTube (Last Week Tonight, The Tonight Show, The Daily Show, etc) also works great. Another creative thing is how Amazon and Netflix create their own content. IMO this means prices won't rise as much because they once again have the leverage to not pay the high prices networks demand for their shows. I'm perfectly fine with some shows not being on Amazon because their own original shows are equally good if not better. I've been watching SyFy's The Expanse (which is AMAZEBALLS) and I can either log into the app using my cable ISP ID or I can buy a pass straight from them. I believe CBS does the same thing too. At the end of the day though, someone's gotta pay for all this and as consumers that falls on us.
Raul Riera@raulriera · I make things
@aaroncrocco that is exactly what he meant, if the solution is using all of them "iTunes, Netflix, Hulu, etc" (which mostly only work in the US btw) then he is 100% correct, "Unfortunately, there is no legal alternative to Popcorn Time with the same content and ease of use."
Anton.Bal@amstb1 · Content Manager @ Vinylify
@raulriera @aaroncrocco Seriously Aaron, the only way I can watch many shows is with a VPN, on a service I pay for, Netflix. Please understand that your experience in easily consuming legal media is highly personal, and to no fault of your own, ethnocentric, due to the tremendous soft power of the USA. Literally most of the libraries of "easy / convenient / legal" services are locked by geo location ಠ_ಠ
Aaron Crocco@aaroncrocco · Writer, Nerd, Delorean Driver, Coffee.
@amstb1 @raulriera Given that I live in the US I can't speak for people overseas. However if things are limited I can see why people would want to use Popcorn Time. It's a tough situation to be in. However, does that mean if people have it available in their country to pay for, would they?
Martijn Otter@martijnotter · Designer
@aaroncrocco @amstb1 @raulriera They definitely would pay for it, but there's no option to. The collection of movies and tv shows is terrible overseas, that's why piracy is a really big issue, at least here in the Netherlands. Everyone is paying for Spotify because everything they want is on there, on Netflix we only have tv shows that you've watched 3 years ago.
sem schilder@xvilo · Creative Director / D3 - Creative Agency
@aaroncrocco I'd love to pay for the content here in The Netherlands. But there isn't a legal way to watch my TV Shows....
Anton.Bal@amstb1 · Content Manager @ Vinylify
@aaroncrocco @raulriera Coming from the US, and now an expat in the Netherlands, I understand both sides of it, definitely. Even with the pittance of choice in our Netflix library, many people have signed up for Netflix, albeit supplementing with illegal consumption and VPNs where needed. If you make the barrier to entry lower to legally consuming media, more people will do so. One good thing I see is that many providers are offering "unplugging" packages, from Verizon to some cable conglomerates.
Elliot Volkman@deleted-85410 · Tech.co Reporter, Nonprofit Founder
@bentossell @aaroncrocco I gotcha homie G http://gph.is/1ykSH6M
vitarilassata@vitarilassata · product manager, Veespo
@rrhoover Sorry Ryan but I disagree... Product Hunt is accountable in some ways. You are telling me that everything that is submitted, automatically appears on the first page?
Eric Quinn Hargrove@ericqhargrove · Pub Dev, BuySellAds
I have spoken to a number of people about this and can see several sides. It is quite the interesting debate. For those in other regions, they get to deal with being part of collateral impact of media licensing agreements. For those of us in the states, there are a couple of different factions. I have spoken to some that pirate and then go pay at a theater if they like the product. Others I have spoken to are of the mindset that if you can, go for it and take what you can get, knowledge and capability is king. Having roots in entertainment, I am of the opinion that you should pay for what you consume. I have also been really pissed off at the industry for conspiring to push garbage content while also increasing the price of the moviegoing experience. At the end of the day the issue is not ProductHunt condoning piracy. It's clear that the community feels that this tech is of value and thus is promoted. @rrhoover, I applaud you and the PH team for not censoring and for your stance on paying for good content. The bigger issue at hand is working to figure out how to make a kick ass experience that the public feels is worth spending hard earned money for, as well as creating distribution tech that is not easily circumvented by the average consumer. Additionally, I'm interested to see how the Trans Pacific Partnership will impact the use of apps or services like this.
Jan Dzulko@janontour · CEO M Cube
@aaroncrocco I agree, people should pay for content but content providers and distributers should also step up their game - it is SO annoying that I have to wait in Germany for weeks before movies come out on legal channels... and then often I cannot switch to English but have to watch a horribly dubbed version... it simply seems that the "old" content economy is more interested in earning more money than delivering a great user experience. So it needs the napsters and popcorn-time to shock them into motion... and then their solution is to sue the consumers instead of creating a great product... so I have a hard time to see anything good in the RIAA or similar outfits - and as a content producer I think you should put pressure on these outfits that you will not be represented by people who consistently fight innovation and sue consumers instead of embracing new technology... look at the uphill battle spotify had to fight - and still has to fight. So yes, I pay for nearly all my content, but the moral verdict on who is good and bad in this fight is murky at least...
Martin Bavio@mbavio · Full Stack Designer
I think the new technology behind this is an even more important story to tell: https://torrentfreak.com/torrent...
Leo Villaverde
Hunter
@ldvillaverde
Popcorn Time has made a comeback with the launch of "Popcorn Time Online" that allows you to stream all of the movies and TV shows it offers directly in your browser using a new plugin called Torrents Time. While Popcorn Time Online looks similar to its predecessor, it’s now using Torrents Time to embed a torrent client in the browser, instead of using HTTP.