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For people who have no clue about recycling, makes no sense to me. Are there really people who trash everything?
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@p45c4l The demo looks like it has two bins (one for landfill/garbage/trash/rubbish and one for recycling). Where is organics/green waste/compost? Do other cities have green waste?
@askdaylen iron, aluminum, PET and paper make most of packaging, and I guess you want to recycle them. I am not sure this is a really a smart design story. You want to reorder stuff before they run out. Amazon dash seems better at this.
the idea of a smart trash can doesn't sound too bad. also, to track the trash youre producing. but do i really want to scan every item i put in it? probably not.
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@gopietz you dont need to. you can throw anything away if you hold an item in front of it it will scan it; if you throw it in the can it wont -- if it doesnt have a barcode you hold it for 2 seconds and it prompts you to say with your voice what to add to your list - it's actually brilliant
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@gopietz Assuming if you want technology to help you track the items you throw away/may want to buy, you have to let the computer know at some point what that was. AFAIK there is no technology that would be able to recognize the products without asking the consumer to make a bit of extra effort.
@gopietz yes, I'm aware of Amazon Go, but it so far:
a) it is limited to a specific physical space packed with sensors. Perhaps, future homes will be equipped with all those sensors but you cannot really compare that with $19 device you can put next to any trash can
b) we have not data about its accuracy. As far as I understand how Amazon Go works, it is uses machine learning algorithms that guess what each person bought in cases, where sensors don't provide enough data. ML works only if there's sufficiently big data sets (thousands of consumers). Data from a single household may not be enough
c) certain things work well for a certain scale. For example, the cost of a weight sensor or camera that is built into a shelf may be justifiable for a shelf that stores bulk quantities of a certain product, but not justifiable for a tiny space on your kitchen shelf that stores a single jar of jam.
Just announced at CES, this device attaches to your existing garbage can to track what you throw away (and therefor need to buy). Could be particularly useful for families parents with teens:
"It'll even text your teenager when the garbage is full."
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@rrhoover It looks like the name is GeniCan, not GenieCan
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@gabriel__lewis : Sound a lot like Eugene http://www.uzer.eu/eugene-en/ , also announced at CES, that has the additional feature of telling you which bin you should use (recycling, ...). Sounds even better for families with kids and teens @rrhoover don't you think ?
@askdaylen The only thing in common is scanning items and adding to a shopping list. What is unique about GenieCan is that it:
1) provides recommendation for eco-friendly waste disposal
2) incorporates the the additional action of scanning barcodes with another action that you are already performing (throwing away stuff). You don't need to remember to push the button and scan items. Of course you could put Dash/Hiku next to your trash can, but #1 provides additional incentive for people that care about recycling.
I like it, but I think it's misleading. It's less of a smart trash can and more of a grocery reordering system.
The other things I wonder about:
1) Timing for things: When I use my last roll of toilet paper, it's a little too late to reorder it.
2) Having to decide which items you're throwing out or recycling that need to be replaced. Some items are one-time purchases for a specific event or meal, while others are more "staples" of your pantry/fridge. You wouldn't want to reorder a thanksgiving Turkey every time you use one. So it takes some "thought" as to what you want reordered versus not.
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Ad 1) I see what you mean, but toilet paper is a bad example, because individual rolls don't have bar codes. GeniCan would record when you throw away the plastic wrap the rolls come in. You could start throwing away the plastic wrap when you put on the second to last roll.
Ad 2) The video shows the screen with a list of thrown away things and a shopping basket icon next to them. It is on that screen where you decide which items to put on your shopping list.
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I would like to see this tech applied to the problem of food waste. Helping families figure out how much / how often to buy perishable items is helpful in that effort.
I'm sure my dad would love for me to get automatic alerts about taking out the trash 😏
But more importantly, I think it's beyond irresponsible to build products that don't enforce, or at least encourage, good habits. While it would be very convenient to toss a bottle in and have that added to my grocery list, the majority of kitchen waste should be composted or recycled, and I think products shouldn't be encouraging being lazy and throwing everything in the trash. Instead, I think this should alert you that you've put your food/recyclables/packaging in the wrong container, using its intelligence to create good habits.
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@lachlanjc The YouTube video I linked above shows that the scanner tells you if the product is recyclable or not.
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