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Simple, beautiful & blazing fast email app now on Mac.

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karthik suroju@karthiksuroju · Marketing @newtonmailapp
* Update * Hey Product Hunters! Just wanted to let you know that we've exhausted the 25 exclusive PH promo codes. Congratulations to the lucky winners! Hope it was a pleasant surprise and we managed to bring a smile on your face :) We tried something new and hope you've enjoyed it. I've always hated the 'first-come, first-served' policy. Hence we tried to come up with something innovative to even out the odds of winning a promo code. Let us know what you think of our approach. Or please share your ideas, if any, around this. Cheers!
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Ben Tossell@bentossell · Community Lead, Product Hunt
We recently saw Polymail launch with a huuuuuge response after Mailbox announced it was shutting down. How do you justify charging $20 for a mac email client vs a free app like Polymail? Especially with no free trial. Honestly I'm still figuring out why I need any extra email 'fluff' that warrants me using an app other than just using Gmail. I downloaded Polymail but never use it, and since updating I've had issues getting back into it. So that barrier is enough for me to probably not bother with it. Emails on my browser are just so convenient for me I feel that there must be something extra special that really makes me want to take the effort. Would love to hear what you have to tell us about CloudMagic @rohitnadhani & team
Rohit Nadhani
Maker
@rohitnadhani · CloudMagic
@bentossell - Our 3M mobile users have been asking for a native Mac app. This is by far the #1 feature request. - If you are only a Gmail user, one of the advantages of a native app is increased snappiness, alt tab switching, etc (basically every advantage of a desktop app) - CloudMagic really shines when you have multiple email accounts across vendors (Work, Personal, University). Our users register 2.6 accounts on an average - By charging for the desktop app, we are trying to create a legit & clean business model
Jack Smith@_jacksmith · Serial Entrepreneur & Startup Adviser
@bentossell "I downloaded Polymail but never use it, and since updating I've had issues getting back into it": 1) how come you never use it 2) what do you mean by "since updating"? updating what and why's that affect things?
Ben Tossell@bentossell · Community Lead, Product Hunt
@_jacksmith when I first got it, I couldn't see an unread vs all in my inbox... that put me off. Not sure I need all the bells and whistles. I star emails for later, read, reply and delete. I'm always on top of them each day. I was promted today with an update to install, so I did. Now it keeps asking me to sign in, when I type in my details it says can't upgrade existing account. Assume a bug, but don't have time for it when Gmail does everything I need atm.
David Simpson@simpson · Director of Product Design, Datto
@bentossell If you have multiple email accounts a client is really necessary. I have to imagine Google is thinking about that though, and will have a solution eventually. That being said Polymail is the best new Mac email app on the market, would have tried CloudMagic if there was a trial but would never pay $20 out of the gate
Ross Currie@rossdcurrie · Founder, CrowdLoot
@bentossell Got an e-mail from @karthiksuroju asking me to join the conversation on Product Hunt and share my thoughts. So here are my thoughts: 1) I never joined the mailing list for this product 2) The e-mail address it was sent to was the e-mail address I use for some of the Product Hunt slack channels, which tells me it's been farmed (not cool). 3) I've never used CloudMagic before in my life, and since I'm a Windows user, I really don't see how this product is relevant to me. 4) I am now wondering - if I was using CloudMagic, would it have the ability to filter out unsolicited spam? General consensus from other commenters seems to be that there should be a LITE version of this app (if a trial isn't possible), which would allow users to explore base features of the product before committing to a full purchase.
Jack Smith@_jacksmith · Serial Entrepreneur & Startup Adviser
@rossdcurrie @bentossel yeah i got an email saying that they were live on product hunt as well. not sure where they got my email as I've never downloaded any of their apps either. @karthiksuroju any insights where you got our email addresses from?
karthik suroju
Maker
@karthiksuroju · Marketing @newtonmailapp
@_jacksmith @bentossell I am part of the maker hunt slack group and that's where I got your email. @_jacksmith, in fact, we even exchanged some messages over twitter a couple of weeks ago about CloudMagic for Mac. Sorry, I went overboard.
Ed Holloway@edholloway · AutomatedSky, MaidBooks, Field2Base
@_jacksmith @bentossell @rohitnadhani @karthiksuroju - you should really address this question on where you got the email addresses from. This is leaving a big question mark for me on whether I want to try the product. Please let us know.
Jack Smith@_jacksmith · Serial Entrepreneur & Startup Adviser
@karthiksuroju fairplay for owning up to it fast. But yes. Was too much imho to add people to a mailing list without asking, or giving a way to unsubscribe
karthik suroju
Maker
@karthiksuroju · Marketing @newtonmailapp
@edholloway @bentossell Like I said earlier, I got the email from a Slack community I'm part of. You can see that here- Hope I've addressed your concern.
Ed Holloway@edholloway · AutomatedSky, MaidBooks, Field2Base
@karthiksuroju @bentossell yes - thanks for responding
Ricardo Normand@rinormand
@bentossell Agree 100% with Ben Tossell. I use cloud magic for iOS as my main email client and waiting for OS X client for a long time, but to pay for it is not in my plans at this moment. I was a peer user of mailbox in the pas (iOS and OS X) and I only moved to Cloud Magic as the Mac client at some point was useless as it was freezing all time. I don't like to do any movements at this time without any guarantee and still have to pay for that. Just get to this discussion as I would like to know what are the users' feedbacks before moving, but I thought it was free...
Martin Bavio@mbavio · Full Stack Designer
@karthiksuroju @bentossell I got the email too. Next time, I think you should ask, at least on the Slack channel.
Jamie Lawrence@ideasasylum · Consultant CTO, Rails developer
@bentossell Did you just admit that Mailbox (free) shut down and then wonder how they can justify charging $20?! Personally, I've tried them all and the free clients all shutdown/sell-out and the cheap ones are all crap. The market for Mac email clients is a wasteland. Call me when there's a Mac email app with a business model built for longevity.
Ben Tossell@bentossell · Community Lead, Product Hunt
@ideasasylum I merely asked the justification versus other clients e.g. polymail which had tremendous launch and feedback. As I said, I don't use them. But this is a question others have too
Ian Hunter@ianhunter · Builder (@founderkit, @zaarly)
@bentossell +1 to the free trial. $20 seems steep to me.
karthik suroju
Maker
@karthiksuroju · Marketing @newtonmailapp
@rossdcurrie @bentossell No simple way to do trials on Mac App Store. Our mobile apps are free and if someone is new to CloudMagic, they can try our mobile apps first, if you like us, you can pay $19.99 to complete the experience on Mac :)
Ben Tossell@bentossell · Community Lead, Product Hunt
@karthiksuroju @rossdcurrie what about a lite version?
karthik suroju
Maker
@karthiksuroju · Marketing @newtonmailapp
@bentossell Trials are not allowed on Mac App Store. Maybe, we need to make the app available on our website as well. That will give us the flexibility and freedom. We weighed the pros and cons of Mac app store and decided to go for it. Maybe, at some point of time, we can think of offering the app on the store and our website, just like many Mac apps do. But, right now, we'll stick to Mac App store. Good news is, we are #2 on the Paid Apps category after the 1st day of launch :)
Ben Tossell@bentossell · Community Lead, Product Hunt
@karthiksuroju awesome news! hope you've got some great feedback too!
Rohit Nadhani
Maker
@rohitnadhani · CloudMagic
Hello Product Hunters! I’m super excited to be here. Thank you @kwdinc for hunting us! A little background- We launched CloudMagic mobile apps around 2 years ago, with the aim of providing the best emailing experience on mobile devices. We take pride in the fact that we are a 4.5 star rated email app on both Apple App Store and Google Play Store, and being used by 3 million users. Why we built a Mac app- After iPhone, iPad, Apple Watch and Android, a desktop app was the natural next step. Our mobile users had also started banging our doors for a native Mac app. Moreover, we wanted to provide a consistent user experience across all devices. CloudMagic for Mac (https://cloudmagic.com/k/mac?ref...) is the most ambitious thing we have ever done, and perhaps the most opinionated email app ever made for the desktop. Here are some of our best features so far: - We support all types of email accounts, including all versions of Exchange: ActiveSync (EAS), EWS & IMAP - Handoff: Automatically “hand off” what you’re doing from iPhone, iPad or Apple Watch to Mac. - Easily manage your emails from Inbox View with one-click actions (Archive, Delete etc) - Keyboard shortcuts that help you get things done quickly (A - Archive, R- Reply etc) I’ll be here all day answering your queries. *FREE Promo Codes* We love the PH community and to show our love, we are giving away 25 Free Promo Codes exclusively to Product Hunters :) ALL the Product Hunters stand a chance to win 1 of the 25 promo Codes when they visit our website. Read how - http://help.cloudmagic.com/artic...
Nikita Korotaev@nikitakorotaev · Incubating products @ Glocal Partners
@rohitnadhani Was not sure how to request the promo code. Assume this is the request)
karthik suroju
Maker
@karthiksuroju · Marketing @newtonmailapp
@nikitakorotaev @rohitnadhani We are giving away promo codes at random to hunters who visit our website through product Hunt. We reserved 25 for Product Hunters. Apple only provides 100 and hence the limit. Let me see if I can get you a promo code :)
David Carpe@passingnotes · Thinker & Layabout
@karthiksuroju ditto on the request - I don't see anything on the page
Lee Wynne@leewynne · Founder Inventr.org
@karthiksuroju oooo I will have one of those please
Ed Holloway@edholloway · AutomatedSky, MaidBooks, Field2Base
@rohitnadhani Where do you request the promo code - I don't see anything on that FAQ page, or the home page?
karthik suroju
Maker
@karthiksuroju · Marketing @newtonmailapp
@leewynne did you manage to win one?
Greg Gibson@mobilegreg · Director of Data, Magnetic
@rohitnadhani @karthiksuroju I'll do whatever it takes to get one of those Promo Codes! I'm a poor kid in Brooklyn just trying to make it in this tech world of ours, so any help I can get on the monetary side of things is much appreciated. ;-)
karthik suroju
Maker
@karthiksuroju · Marketing @newtonmailapp
@mobilegreg haha! Let me see if I can do anything for you :)
Anže Jenšterle@craftbyte · Developer, Castaway Labs
@karthiksuroju I still don't know how to enter the contest. A promo code would really help :) I have access to Polymail and would love to make a comparison between the two if possible :D
Jason Ephraim@growwithjason · Campus Director DigitalCrafts Houston
@rohitnadhani Thanks for the promo code contest. Can't wait to try this on my mac. Always happy to see more people working on making email better :) One question: On the FAQ page you mention, it states "Hunters who visit the website from our Product Hunt page have a one-in-a-hundred chance of winning an exclusive PH promo code. " Are you stopping the contest once you reach 2500 users? Or, are you limiting the # of codes based on entries? Otherwise, you may mean "One-in-a-million". A cute idiom, but maybe a bad idea when referencing odds in a actual contest.
karthik suroju
Maker
@karthiksuroju · Marketing @newtonmailapp
@growwithjason There is a restriction by Apple on number of promo codes one can generate. We ourselves are Product Hunt regulars and love the community, hence, we reserved 25 for PH. We stopped the contest after reaching 2500 visits to our page. I've commented the same here as well. This way, 2500 guys have a chance to win a promo code. Only other way people distributed promo codes on PH was to list them down in the comments. That gives an unfair advantage to the early birds. I am not saying what we did is the best approach, we just tried something new :)
Connor Hicks@cohix · iOS Intern, 1Password
YES I have been waiting and waiting for this and now I have THREE Mac mail apps competing for my dock slot: Polymail, Nyla's N1, CloudMagic.
karthik suroju
Maker
@karthiksuroju · Marketing @newtonmailapp
@cohix who do you think will win you over?
Connor Hicks@cohix · iOS Intern, 1Password
@karthiksuroju right now polymail seems to be winning, but CloudMagic iOS is SO good, I almost need a polymail iOS before I make my decision.
Khuram Malik@khurammalik · The Strategist
@cohix right there with you. Been quite happy with Polymail so far, but would love the "organise by person" feature of UniboxApp then I could die happy :)
Lasse Jansen@lassejansen · Co-founder @uniboxapp
@khurammalik @cohix Why not just use Unibox? Just asking as we always try to make Unibox better.
Khuram Malik@khurammalik · The Strategist
@lassejansen @cohix I took a look at the website but didn't see any support for email tracking, send later, dropbox/grive integration etc? I would definitely use Unibox if I knew those things were available.
Lasse Jansen@lassejansen · Co-founder @uniboxapp
@khurammalik @cohix We're planning to add integrations to dropbox etc. Regarding email tracking we actually started to add the opposite: on iOS we now block tracking pixels :) By send later do you mean that you can predefine a delay or that you want to schedule an email to be sent a specific time?
Olivier El Mekki@oelmekki · maker
There was a time at my previous company where we did not have the resources yet to put everyone on google for work, and we used a standard postfix server with unix accounts. Cloudmagic has been incredibly helpful in that, because: * it's the only highly configurable smtp/imap ready app working on both iOS and android I found * its middle man login made it easier for user to manage their password, compared to unix passwords * I could setup account for users, configure their account, then they just download the app, log in and they're ready to go Cloudmagic is the perfect solution if you're after something cheap yet not a pain for your collegues :)
karthik suroju
Maker
@karthiksuroju · Marketing @newtonmailapp
We are seeing some confusion around how our Promo Code give away strategy, let me throw some light on it - Because of the app store restrictions, we had to have a limit on number of promo codes that we can offer. We saw others on Product Hunt commenting the promo codes and felt it is an unfair advantage for early birds. hence we tried something new - Hunters who visit the website from our Product Hunt page have a one-in-a-hundred chance of winning an exclusive PH promo code. We have randomized the entire process so that the 1st person is as likely to win as anyone else. Here's what you'll see if Lady Luck smiles on you - “The world is cruel, and the only morality in a cruel world is chance.” - Harvey Dent, The Dark Knight
Greg Gibson@mobilegreg · Director of Data, Magnetic
@karthiksuroju Does it ONLY tell you if you've won and say nothing at all if you didn't? That's a bit confusing. You would eliminate much of the confusion if everyone that landed on the page from PH was shown a Win or Lose message accordingly as opposed to only showing WIN messages to those 25 people
karthik suroju
Maker
@karthiksuroju · Marketing @newtonmailapp
@mobilegreg @karthiksuroju Only the ones who win will see the form. We didn't want to show any message to all the others, as we thought it'll not add much value. But, didn't think it would confuse people. Like I said, this is something we tried for the 1st time on PH. We'll keep this in mind if we do something similar next time :)