Alice

Create a customized shortened URL for any custom domain

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#3 Product of the DayJuly 29, 2017

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Brett Williams@brettwill1025 · Founder of Hue, and some other products.
What is the biggest difference between you and, say, someone like Bitly? Congrats on the launch! 🚀
Fernando Moreira
Maker
@fernand0moreira · Founder @Angry Ventures
@brettwill1025 As a final output, we do the same! -> Shrinking Links!! Now, (and in our opinion better) -> Alice is a self-hosted solution; -> Your Data is Yours: Export your links and stats at anytime - they'll never be monetized or held hostage; -> Migration Assistance: Bring your branded links with you from another service at no extra charge- we'll help! Now, PRICE Bit.ly Enterprise - $995 a month Alice - $250 one-time fee :D thks for the comment! p.s. I saw @Hue. Fock, great idea!
Josef Moser@josef_moser · MSc in Entrepreneurship, iOS Developer
@fernand0moreira and what‘s the difference to a completely free self-hosted yourls.org shortener that‘s worth the price of $250?
Greg Battle: gbattle@gbattle · Product Nutjob
You do realize that shortening links is fully commoditized. Charging for that, even at a one time cost, is aggressive imho. Bitly isn't just a link shortener, it is a marketing and customer intelligence platform. The $995 for Enterprise is for businesses with high traffic looking for viral safe ways of pushing brand, tracking audience and aggregating insights. SMBs won't see the same value. I say this because I helped create and execute bitly Enterprise 7 years ago.
Fernando Moreira
Maker
@fernand0moreira · Founder @Angry Ventures
@gbattle great feedback. We are very grateful for that. I invite you to read this: http://www.angry.pt/alc p.s. Great work helping The New York Foundling!!
Greg Battle: gbattle@gbattle · Product Nutjob
@fernand0moreira I will read it. In a more mobile-centric world, links have a very different value today. And thanks man. NY Foundling is legit amazing, changing the lives of the neediest in NYC.
Fernando Moreira
Maker
@fernand0moreira · Founder @Angry Ventures
Greg Battle: gbattle@gbattle · Product Nutjob
@fernand0moreira to be clear, an average second year CS major can create a URL shortener in an afternoon. It isn't rocket science. However, doing it at scale, to the tune of 10+ billion clicks per month isn't trivial or easy. To be clear, in the days when Twitter was fail whale central, bitly never went down, which is a testament to how forward thinking their engineering team was/is. Don't trust me on it, tear through their engineering blog for yourself. Everything changes when you add orders of magnitude to the problem.
Greg Battle: gbattle@gbattle · Product Nutjob
@gbattle how many times can I say "to be clear" ... #douchey haha!
Fernando Moreira
Maker
@fernand0moreira · Founder @Angry Ventures
@gbattle Such great advice!!! Fock! Thks!! 👏
Fernando Moreira
Maker
@fernand0moreira · Founder @Angry Ventures
@gbattle 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 we'll be happy to receive more feedback like this. Ping us on our email if you want :)
Greg Battle: gbattle@gbattle · Product Nutjob
@fernand0moreira bitly had another product, bitly Pro, which was a free self service custom URL shortener. We used it to source potential Enterprise customers. Also note, the $995 price for Enterprise hasn't changed for 7 years! They keep adding value at the same price point. Our internal goal was to reach 1000 customers at $1000/month. They've surpassed that. Do the math, you'll know why they exited last month. Interesting to see how the cottage industry of tinyurl (literally one guy in his mom's basement) turned into a viable marketing service.
Fernando Moreira
Maker
@fernand0moreira · Founder @Angry Ventures
@gbattle Why do you think that: "Also note, the $995 price for Enterprise hasn't changed for 7 years!" ? thks!
Greg Battle: gbattle@gbattle · Product Nutjob
@fernand0moreira study SaaS marketing platform models man.
Fernando Moreira
Maker
@fernand0moreira · Founder @Angry Ventures
Promeet Mansata@pmansata · Head of Growth and Operations @ Zently
Same question as @brettwill1025. Congrats on the launch @fernand0moreira!
Dmitriy Levchenko@levchenkod · Making things at beat.today
Joining to @pmansata and @brettwill1025 Also what about API, do you have it? Or maybe planning?
Fernando Moreira
Maker
@fernand0moreira · Founder @Angry Ventures
@pmansata -> Alice is a self-hosted solution; -> Your Data is Yours: Export your links and stats at anytime - they'll never be monetized or held hostage; -> Migration Assistance: Bring your branded links with you from another service at no extra charge- we'll help! PRICE Bit.ly Enterprise - $995 a month Alice - $250 one-time fee :D thks for the comment! p.s. Any plans to come to europe with @Zently ?
Fernando Moreira
Maker
@fernand0moreira · Founder @Angry Ventures
@pmansata @brettwill1025 @levchenkod maybe soon. Alice is a project created in three wonderful afternoons... You can find "The Why" here: http://www.angry.ventures/blog/u... Sorry :) Here -> http://www.angry.pt/alc (the other one is to big) :) - thks alice!! thks for your interest
Promeet Mansata@pmansata · Head of Growth and Operations @ Zently
@fernand0moreira - thank you for clarifying. Will give this a spin soon! @Zently launch in Europe is hopefully a few months away. Thank you for asking!
Fernando Moreira
Maker
@fernand0moreira · Founder @Angry Ventures
Colm Howard-Lloyd@colm_howard_lloyd · Co-Founder COO, YOVO.io
Is there any pricing detail?
Fernando Moreira
Maker
@fernand0moreira · Founder @Angry Ventures
@colm_howard_lloyd :) Bit.ly Enterprise - $995 a month Alice - $250 one-time fee :D p.s. the headline of yovo sound awesome!
Fernando Moreira
Maker
@fernand0moreira · Founder @Angry Ventures
Hey guys, meet ALICE. The project we created (http://www.angry.ventures) that allows you to create a shrinked customized URL for any link using your company domain. Wanna explore wonderland? Get in touch for more details! p.s. Why Alice? Because we agree with her! Eternal links are confusing. We believe that shrink them, as Alice does to herself, is the best way to promote your brand.