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@namzo and other places. My UK number worked fine.

@jbrooksuk @namzo it'll work internationally... some of our international friends here found a bug preventing the code from being sent to some countries. What's launching without the help of new friends to iron out some things, right? 😎 Try it again and you should be good to go.

@dougw @jbrooksuk I just gave it another try and it worked!

@namzo we had a bug this morning that prevented deliverability to some geos -- but that was fixed so give it a try -- from wherever you are.

@ambonium curious too

@jimcanto There is more of an usability and trust issue here. Implementing the mobile number as the prime authentification method is a huge emotional investment to ask from a prospecting user. This is not a commitment for 2-way authorization hence a second security layer that already ensured the user being involved and having a foot in the door in the users mentality. The mobile number has been shown to be a way more intrusive information to ask for then compared to an anonymous account and mail or oauth.

@andmitsch Sounds like a good thing if one is interested in thwarting spam accounts within their app. And, to your point; it would require the app be compelling enough to meet that trust threshold. Interesting.

@jimcanto @andmitsch I think I'd use it in my app (wip) if I make signup itself optional. Users can be onboarded without any signup and only asked to authenticate by phone number for a certain app feature when they clearly see value doing so. Not at the beginning of using a new app, I wouldn't give my phone number at first if I'm the user.

@garyfung @andmitsch ...wouldn't give phone number? Even if you believed it would not be kept, used, or sold? Or would you simply not trust those promises at first?

@jimcanto @andmitsch Wouldn't trust promises from a new app I don't know but just trying at first. And I'm speaking as putting myself in a normal user's shoes.

@nagra__ yes, we'll get there. want to help?

@dougw would love to help. Would be my first npm. Not sure I'm experienced enough for it 😅

@nagra__ you've written more than me, no doubt. Shoot me a note: doug@withcopper.com

@victormanriquey just use the 1Password app ;D

@justawebguy And I'll end up by somehow losing the password to that too xD

@victormanriquey my mom totally got locked out of 1password that way.