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The most secure messaging app

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Alex Heikel@alexheikel · Founder of @texhq. CEO de @polkahq y @ov
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Would you recommend Tex to a friend?
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Laszlo Levente Mári@noxowe · Dev / Consultant
As a security expert I really find your about me page (on tumblr) misguiding. By deleting chat history and using fake names, an app won't get secure. Not at all.
Alex Heikel
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@alexheikel · Founder of @texhq. CEO de @polkahq y @ov
@noxowe Yes Laszlo you are right, we are not focusing on that kind of security, we focus on regular privacy for the day to day conversations... there are tons of very encrypted messages apps(and all can be broken), here we give the sender and receiver security that no one will be able to demonstrate who or what they said... so they can talk without being afraid of their conversation published or showed to other peoples
Laszlo Levente Mári@noxowe · Dev / Consultant
@alexheikel In this case I understand your app, it's a cool idea but now I think that the title is very misguiding: "The most secure message app". Anyway, hope you will be able to solve more of these 'social' issues with your app!
Alex Heikel
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@alexheikel · Founder of @texhq. CEO de @polkahq y @ov
@noxowe thank you so much Laszlo!
Washington Sanchez@drwasho · Co-founder, OB1
@alexheikel @noxowe "there are tons of very encrypted messages apps (and all can be broken)" No. But giving you the benefit of the doubt, what kind of security are you giving that is superior to say Signal, for example?
Alex Heikel
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@alexheikel · Founder of @texhq. CEO de @polkahq y @ov
@drwasho hi Washington!! No not superior or with better encryption... Different from signal and all other apps out there
Alex Heikel
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@alexheikel · Founder of @texhq. CEO de @polkahq y @ov
@drwasho With tex we care about regular users that need secure conversation with friends and family... if you wanna tell a secret, something that bother you or whatever you talk with friends and family every day in person and maybe you dont want to tell them in a message because he will have your conversation always in his phone and can show anyone... or if the other people is with someone it can show it the conversation immediately.... So tex is a message app that give that privacy you have when you are talking face to face to another person... just the 2 know who they are... and all that you say... it disappears...
Chris Maddern@chrismaddern · Co-Founder, Button
Are there rules on Product Hunt about misrepresentation of products?
Alex Heikel
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@alexheikel · Founder of @texhq. CEO de @polkahq y @ov
@chrismaddern why misrepresentation?
Jack Smith@_jacksmith · Serial Entrepreneur & Startup Adviser
Why do startups feel the need to make outrageous and unverifiable claims such as "the most X". "The most beautiful X", "the most secure X"? I'd say better to just focus on how you're unique (which in this case seems to be privacy), vs claiming to be the "most secure" messaging app, which it doesn't seem to be, when you have others with end to end encryption etc
Alex Heikel
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@alexheikel · Founder of @texhq. CEO de @polkahq y @ov
@_jacksmith Yes you´re right Jack, the thing is that now people tend to directly thing in encryption when the word secure is out... secure could be in many ways... the way we are secure now is focusing on the safe of the users... the user is always secure and his message is secure when talking each other... if you have the most encrypted message app but you are next to camera i can record anything you are writing and then publish anywhere and demonstrate that you are the one saying that... or if your write me with something even Snowden make... if i´m on your side i will be able to see who and what is he sayin Tex is secure on that, cause even if Obama write to Hillary something bad about Trump and this is next to Hillary, she wont be able to demonstrate that Obama is the one writing her...
Jack Smith@_jacksmith · Serial Entrepreneur & Startup Adviser
@alexheikel right. But I don't think you need to say you're the "most secure", because that's insulting to your competiton and doesn't actually say anything about what you do
Alex Heikel
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@alexheikel · Founder of @texhq. CEO de @polkahq y @ov
@_jacksmith its not insulting, we actually watch things they do and some of them as the encryption we are going to implement, the thing is that the most secure that we said is in a way no one of the other apps do.... But yes maybe we could think in a easiest way for people to understand what we do and how we are safe or secure! Thanks anyway Jack!!
Laszlo Levente Mári@noxowe · Dev / Consultant
@alexheikel just a sidenote: make as much of your app open-source as you can. You must prove. Telling us that it's encrypted is close to nothing. MD5 is an encryption too but takes less than an hour to crack it with a modern computer. People will always need proof and the most effective way is to open-source at least your client but it's better if you are fully transparent. People can set up their own Texs and contribute
Alex Heikel
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@alexheikel · Founder of @texhq. CEO de @polkahq y @ov
@noxowe yup we are definitely gona do that... we still have a lot to work with....
Kazuya Nakamura@kzynakamura · CEO, qeuep
Interesting concept for security. So This is my understanding from reading your website and description in App Store. Uniqueness of Tex is not encryption approach. Tex makes sure security by being anonymous using fake name. If I understand correctly, you can chat with someone with fake name. If someone wants to validate this fake name person is you, then can send you verification code. So they know this fake name is you. What is the best use case for using fake names?
Alex Heikel
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@alexheikel · Founder of @texhq. CEO de @polkahq y @ov
@kzynakamura Hi Kazuya! Thanks for reading and answer! Yes we focus on regular users and regular use. We protect the sender, the message and the receiver, using both sides fakes names, and message are with encryption and also deleted when read. The fake name is the unique way we find out you can start a conversation with any people you want, about anything and that person wont be able to demonstrate who you are or what have you told him... So you can talk anyone and you are secure, and your conversation is secure, and the other person your are talking with is secure also!
Kazuya Nakamura@kzynakamura · CEO, qeuep
@alexheikel But what is the use of fake name if people can validate you anyway?
Alex Heikel
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@alexheikel · Founder of @texhq. CEO de @polkahq y @ov
@kzynakamura is a 3 second validation only... And the user send only when he want
Bret Cheng@bretdabaker · Mobile Dev, FOAK
So what's the story behind Tex? What did you or your friends/family/colleagues experience that makes you want to create this app? It seems to be an app for people who want to tell some important/confidential to someone they don't 100% trust. Which is something we don't usually do. What are the specific use cases?
Alex Heikel
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@alexheikel · Founder of @texhq. CEO de @polkahq y @ov
@bretdabaker Hi bret, as told in many coments, there are a lots of things you could say even your brother or girlfriend that you may not want other to watch... of course, is a tool for a niche... but imagine that you are face to face to someone and you are telling him something... thats the most secure way to tell someone something.... just the 2 know they are together and just the 2 know what both are saying... there is no way you can prove the other person told you something... ok thats Tex