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  • Matt Henderson 🚀Athena & Aidem Network
    Pros: 

    😒🙄😡🤯

    Cons: 

    Sold my contact details to spam farms

    Submitted www.athena.cool, opted for the free tier, then within a few hours started receiving dozens of spam emails and phone calls.

    In 2 days I've received almost 50 emails and 25 phone calls. The emails are from web contractors (all with the exact same copy/pasted copy), and the calls are from "the federal government."

    99% sure it was caused by this product, but happy to edit review if just a coincidence.

    Matt Henderson 🚀 has used this product for one week.

Discussion

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Ben Tossell@bentossell · Co-Founder, Token Daily
Personally I see a few red flags here There is no detailed information on what you actually do for startups? I see this: First point grammatically needs amending and what makes it 'premium directory'? Second point mentions being discovered by using growth hacking. In my experience 'growth hacking' comes across as spammy and doesn't lead to very authentic/good results (example, tweet the phrase and see what fake stuff happens). Third point doesn't explain what you do to help at all.... As a founder I'd feel skeptical submitting my startup here. There are others like Beta List and Startup List etc that do a great job here already. How will you compete?
Joshua A. Brueckner@jabrueckner · Founder & CEO, Air Tailor
@bentossell Dying to hear the response. Tweeting 'growth hacking' now :)
Ben Tossell@bentossell · Co-Founder, Token Daily
@jabrueckner I'm not trying to have a go...I'm genuinely interested in the approach! :)
Mehmet AkyolMaker@malibey · Developer
@bentossell Hi Joshua, thanks a lot for your comments. We understand that we need to be more clear on our value proposition and methodologies. However, we are still trying to expand the services that we can do for startups. Yes, currently we are basically a startup directory yet we have around 150 paying customers. Our mobile apps have recently launched and they will be positioned as a discovery of startups submitted to Startup Buffer. With respect to other directories, we are still very small but we are in no rush to compete with them, we are just trying to create a beautiful and useful platform for startups who are trying to get traction. About the 'growth hacking' wording, I must admit, for now it is just a marketing buzz word but we are working on creating small marketing tools to help startups. Thanks a lot for your time, I appreciate the questions :) If you have more questions, you can always contact us over hi{{@]]startupbuffer.com
Ben Tossell@bentossell · Co-Founder, Token Daily
@malibey So what is it that you do to help startups? What do you provide to those 150 paying customers currently? What are the 'growth hacking' techniques you implement to 'help get startups discovered'? Genuinely curious
Samit Marketing@samitpatel · Kickstarter & Indiegogo Agency
@bentossell @malibey I want to know about this also.
Thanasis@tnsrig · UI/UX @EU_Commission
I think that everybody is being a bit hostile to this product! And I also think that product hunt is not a place of hatred,of course I am with you guys that it feels a bit weird and I am not getting why someone would pay to just add a startup on there site when you can give product hunt a go and if you get fetured you will get much more bigger exposure! My personal opinion is that they managed to get some users to pay and now there are trying to figure out what the real value of their product is, i feel that's also the case with some other projects also! So that's why they don't have a clear answer to give! The best thing to do is to try to help them! ✌
Mehmet AkyolMaker@malibey · Developer
@tnsrig Thanks for the support man.
Ben Tossell@bentossell · Co-Founder, Token Daily
@tnsrig I often try to ask the hard questions but by no means am I trying to be hostile! I'm genuinely trying to dive in to the value prop of this product and how it may be seen by others in a situation that I, myself, was in not long ago.
Mehmet AkyolMaker@malibey · Developer
@bentossell @tnsrig Thank you Ben.
Ben Tossell@bentossell · Co-Founder, Token Daily
@malibey @tnsrig it is by no means a personal dig at you or your product. Many may notice that across many products featured on PH I like to ask the hard questions. For me I think its the most valuable way to help founders. Rather than saying "great job". I like to get to the nitty gritty and fine out reasons for various things and how I perceive that at first glance. I try and put on my head from seeing so many products launch on PH and also from a founder who went through the same process :)
Faisal Hassan@faisal_hassanx · Maker, Dvlpr Stash
@bentossell You ask questions that others want to ask but don't. It's great to have you here. 🙏🏻
Melissa Monte@melissamonteee · Director of Media & Startup Growth
I feel like starting out with some sort of free model would not only help your case (with ProductHunters and everyone else), but also allow you to build a large enough base that people may see the value more clearly. Also, you mentioned you just checked the numbers, and submitted startups are getting 200-300 hits through your site. I'm assuming these numbers include portions of time that you've been featured on ProductHunt? What's your plan for traffic in the future?
Mehmet AkyolMaker@malibey · Developer
@melissamonteee Hi Melissa, actually it is free to submit projects, you only pay if you wish to get on to the homepage and our social networks. About the hits, actually those numbers were from before the PH effect. For traffic, we are trying things on social media and lately on SEO. We have also tried Facebook ads as well but we need to build a few things to measure ROI on paid acquisitions.
Ross Blankenship@rossblankenship · AngelKings.com, CEO and Partner
I agree. There needs to be a clear value proposition to the end user. Also, there are no Terms of Services, which detail the use of the startup's information, i.e. email, names, URLs. When I clicked the Privacy and Policy page, I'm taken to a vague resources link. Explain.
Mehmet AkyolMaker@malibey · Developer
@rossblankenship Hi Ross, thanks for pointing that out. We have fixed the wrong link.
Taylor Cheng@taylordcheng · Founder
Seems very similar to ProductHunt itself. And from what @bentossell gathered, the value prop is the same as well: submit to the site for exposure/traffic? Or am I missing something
Mehmet AkyolMaker@malibey · Developer
@taylordcheng @bentossell Yes, not much difference actually.