Pepper

Block robocalls before they ring your phone ❌🤖

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Pepper is a spam filter for your phone calls. Pepper stops robocalls from ever buzzing your phone in the first place, so you don’t even get call notifications unless they’re confirmed to be from a human. No "Scam Likely" here, just "Person Definitely".
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Christian Vanderbeck
How is this different than turning on Google Voice call screening? With GV it gives people the opportunity to state their name, and if they don't do that, the call isn't forwarded to my phone. Are you able to see my full call logs? I have people not in my contacts that I do want to get calls from, like my bank for fraud protection. Can you make reasonable assumptions that if I've received a call from a number and the call was answered and lasted more than say 60 seconds, that it's not a spam call and you shouldn't block that in the future? Or if i make an outbound call to a number and then get a call back, that it isn't a spam call? Finally the mark of a good spam filter isn't just whats blocked (the positive rate), but also how many legitimate calls/emails were not blocked (false positive). Meaning, if you blocked every call to my phone, technically you've blocked all spam calls, but you're not really solving the problem of separating good from bad. Do you have metrics on what percent of calls that are initially blocked should not be blocked? Or legitimate calls that aren't willing to go through the hassle of verifying themselves? Or is it just a strong firewall 100% based on my contact list?
Ani Ravi
@christian_vanderbeck1 Hi Christian, great questions! Let's take them one at a time. Re: Google Voice Screening 1. The problem we've noticed with Google Voice screening is that robocalls sometimes still get through since it's based on audio. It might be a good enough solution for most, but we're trying to get all of them. 2. Also, this assumes that most of the people that have your number have your Google Voice number. We're solving for the problem of your cellular phone number getting robocalls, which almost everyone has a cellular phone number and almost everyone (at least in the US) gets robocalls. Re: Call Logs 1. We're kind of like the reCAPTCHA for call screening. If it's an automated call, it won't get through at the moment (although we hope to make this more sophisticated to handle the few robocalls you actually do want to get). If they're a human, regardless of whether they're in your contacts or not, they will get through, and we mark that number as "safe" for you, so they may call you again without touching our filter (we hope to make this more sophisticated as well, but this is where we are at). 2. We only see your incoming calls, and have no control of your outbound calls whatsoever. 3. In short, we don't see your full call logs, only certain incoming calls that come through us. Re: good spam filter You're absolutely right! We definitely don't want to have any calls that were supposed to get through not get through. Your contact list is the first thing we check to automatically bypass our filter, but the verification process is extremely simple. Some other apps use really complicated systems but ours is straightforward for now. We've yet to see calls get blocked that weren't supposed to get blocked with the exception of setup or carrier issues (Sprint is super problematic which is why we don't support them right now). There's a lot we want to do to make this more robust going forward - taking one thing at a time right now. Thanks for all the great questions, I hope this answered them!
Christian Vanderbeck
@ani_ravi Thanks for the thoughtful response! I'll give it a shot. $6 seems like a lot, but i'm already paying verizon $3 for something that should be free.
Ani Ravi
@christian_vanderbeck1 We're with you there! The carriers should be the real one fixing this problem - they own it all. It's a sad state of affairs that products like ours have to exist. There are some moves being made to solve this by the carriers and government, at least in the US. We'll have to see how it goes. 🕵️
Alfred E. Einstein
Too expensive. Jolly Roger is *much* cheaper and does a perfect job. And it's hilarious!
Ani Ravi
@thisisnoalias We'd really like to bring the costs down over time. Jolly Roger is hilarious though!
Charles Magnuson
@thisisnoalias But Jolly Roger doesn't do anything to block calls... Using the service requires that you answer all of the spam calls you receive every day. If you own a business, this might be a fun service to use. But to the average consumer, Jolly Roger sounds like a horrible way to deal with constant spam callers.
John Lobert
@magnuson Not true. Not sure where you got your info, but it’s dead wrong. It blocks all calls. You get an email every time you get a new caller asking if it’s legit. If you say it is, then that caller has to press 1 to get through. If you say no, then every call from that number is sent to a random bot. I use it both on my cell and landline.
Evo Terra
I've been testing-in-real-life Pepper for a month now and am quite impressed. I actually answer my phone now, as I have high-confidence that it's an actual human on the other end. Checking my stats, Pepper has blocked 28 robocalls to my phone numbers -- Google Voice and one from my carrier -- in the last 8 days. That is fantastic. Ethan has been quite helpful as my configuration setup was a bit of an edge case. But it worked (and continues to work) like a champ. Highly recommended and worth the already-cheap monthly fee to actually love my phone-as-a-phone again!
Ethan Naluz
@evo_terra2 Thanks for this Evo!
Lisa Chesterman
Hate robots calls
Ethan Naluz
Ethan Naluz
Hey everyone! 👋 I'm Ethan, Co-Maker of Pepper, a robocall-blocking mobile app. I'm super stoked to hear all the helpful feedback, questions, and comments from the Product Hunt community (aka constructively roast us please). 💢 Problem There are over 5 billion robocalls each month, *just* in the U.S. alone, and we're on track to hit 62 billion by the end of 2019. Everyone gets them, and everyone hates them. Although there are some robocall blocking solutions out there, most of them just flag suspicious calls by adding something like “Scam Likely” to the caller ID, but they don't actually stop the calls from ever (annoyingly) ringing your phone. Rather than selling vaccinations, they're selling medication. 💡Solution What if, just like for emails, you had a spam filter for your calls? That's exactly what we built. Pepper is a spam filter for your phone calls. Instead, of warning you that a call *might* a robocaller, Pepper blocks robocalls from ever ringing your phone in the first place, so you don’t even get call notifications unless they’re confirmed to be from a human. So far, not a single robocall has been able to get past our spam filter. With Pepper, you can feel confident that calls will never be "Scam Likely", instead they'll be from a "Person Definitely". Start 2020 right with no robocalls-- we're offering a one-week free trial until January 1st! ⚙️ How It Works 1. Download the app (https://callpepper.co/#/app) 2. Make an account 3. During setup, we help you forward your calls to our spam filter 4. Robocalls are blocked ❔FAQs Q: What phone carriers does Pepper support? A: We currently support AT&T, T-Mobile, and Verizon. Sorry Sprint customers, we're working on it! Q: Does Pepper work outside of the United States? A: Not yet, but if we get enough demand, we just might. Q: Can I sign up with my Google Voice number? A: We currently only support cellular phone numbers.
Mat Sherman
How do you think about competing with Apple? Could they bring this in house or is this more of a network play?
Ethan Naluz
@mat_sherman With the particular way that we block robocalls, Apple probably wouldn't want to recreate or even try to compete with us in the first place. There are two main reasons for this: 1. There are costs associated with blocking robocalls, and it simply doesn't benefit Apple enough to pay for this. 2. It would just be too much work without enough benefit for Apple. Outright blocking robocalls before they even get to buzz a user's phone and perfecting that process is tricky because of funky international rules, edge cases, and multiple other variables like phone carrier varieties. That's why, for now, we're starting relatively narrow and only serving customers in the U.S. who use AT&T, T-Mobile, and Verizon. The most efficient way to tackle this problem would be to do it at the phone carrier level, but phone carriers haven't done a very good job at blocking robocalls so far.
Adam Metcalf
Love this! Thank you @ethannaluz and team! You are solving a significant pain point in everyone's daily life right now. I think I get an average of 5 random calls a day. However, most of these are from humans trying to sell something. Going beyond just robocalls, I would like any call that I don't have the number in my address book to be immediately moved to Spam. That would be fantastic!
Ethan Naluz
@adam_metcalf1 Thanks for this super helpful feedback Adam! Although for now, Pepper only filter out automated spam calls, we're working to improve Pepper to catch the cases you described as well. We'll keep you posted!
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