Nokia 3310

A modern classic reimagined

#5 Product of the WeekFebruary 27, 2017
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Luis@louthinker · Oldbridge
I love that one of the features they highlight is "Play the classic Snake"!
Ryan Hoover@rrhoover · Founder, Product Hunt
@louthinker there are a bunch of Snake reboots for iPhone and Android. This might be the best of them.
Luis@louthinker · Oldbridge
@rrhoover knew about that one, it's great! But nothing can beat playing the game on an old Nokia phone.
Patrik Csak
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@ptrkcsk · Front-End Dev + UX @ Hoffman Academy
@louthinker That tactile feedback. 👌
Salim@organicthirty · Digital Strategist
@louthinker @rrhoover Its a major feature. I would not be surprised if Snake on the Nokia was one of the most played mobile if not potentially most played video game ever made.
Ryan Hoover@rrhoover · Founder, Product Hunt
@organicthirty @louthinker actually, I believe Solitaire on Windows is the most played game ever 😛
Tristan Isham@tristanisham · Founder of Cloudy
@louthinker @rrhoover It's what makes the game.
Nate Heath@netback · Tech Guy, Consistent Tech
@louthinker It does not look like classic Snake to me... The screenshots show some sort of reboot, lame.
Ben Tossell@bentossell · Something new
Go home Nokia, you're drunk. "But it has Snake" In all seriousness this (I assume) is for people looking for something v cheap, perhaps a first phone, going travelling would be good because of the month long battery life!
Saif Al Falah@saifalfalah · JavaScript Developer
@bentossell Without even 3G? This phone is pretty much useless or I'm missing a set of demographics that will use this.
Sergey Pirogov@perpetuous · CEO & Founder, wayme (www.wayme.tours)
@saifalfalah grannies
Matthew Boyle@matthewboyle25 · Matt
@saifalfalah @bentossell Yeh. Quite a big demographic too, half of the world. Many developing countries don't have 3g.
Josh Lewis!@joshlewis
@saifalfalah People who just want to make phone calls. People for whom a smartphone is too fancy and does more than they'd ever want. I know tons of people like this. They'd rather save money than spend it on something they're not going to use.
Juan Sanchez@jsanc623 · Founder @ Sphire
@saifalfalah @bentossell Many many people, especially in third and second world countries. Even some in first world countries who want basically a call-only phone (or even a backup no-data phone in a bugout bag)
Alessandro Pogliaghi@tatoalo · Software Engineer
@bentossell One month is estimated standby time, just for clarification.
Bo Wang@bluemonk482 · Researcher, AI, NLP
@jsanc623 @saifalfalah @bentossell Right they are willing to pay 50 euros for this. This is targeted at the hipsters that's fo sho. If I want a brick phone I get a burner.
Juan Sanchez@jsanc623 · Founder @ Sphire
@bluemonk482 @saifalfalah @bentossell $53 USD is not a lot - even in 2nd/3rd world countries, compared to the original 3310 selling for $15 to $25 USD, and other 'entry' phones selling for $20 to $30. Not everyone will have one of these, for sure - but it finds its niche. An original 3310 will have what, a week of standby time? The one month standby time for this phone is going to be a major selling point in places where electricity is hard to come by. Certainly it will be a 'luxury' for people in say - Sub Saharan Africa - who earn on average $762 per YEAR, but it's not going to be an item they'll have to purchase multiple of in a year - and second hand 3310-reboots will eventually make their way out to 2nd/3rd WCs for much much cheaper. Considering it's long battery life, it makes sense in places where electricity might be harder to come by.
Saif Al Falah@saifalfalah · JavaScript Developer
@jsanc623 @bluemonk482 @bentossell 53 USD is not a lot? Let me tell you something, it is. I live in a country where more people than the entire population of the United States live below 2$ a day. And let me tell you, this won't sell. Think about it, are these people not using a phone right now? They are. And there are phones available at less than 10$ here. Do you think someone's going to spend five times that amount for more or less same features? There are plans to launch phones with VOLTE support for < 20$ which will have lifetime of free calls included. Do you think anyone would be a phone more than twice its price and for what? Everyone, including the poor are aspirational. They'd rather save and upgrade to an entry level Android than buy a phone for its brand. And when it comes to brand these people couldn't care less whether it was a NOKIA or POKIA. And when it comes to electricity, these people are more resourceful than it initially meets the eye. Let me know when you're coming to India. I'd love to show you around.
Saif Al Falah@saifalfalah · JavaScript Developer
@jsanc623 @bluemonk482 @bentossell Just so you know, this is what you get for 50$ here: http://www.amazon.in/Karbonn-K9-... Dual Sim Five Inch Screen 3G Good enough battery And this is just one phone. There are hundreds of phones in this range. And there are even more when you go to shops in rural India. Let me know how this Nokia will sell, again.
Juan Sanchez@jsanc623 · Founder @ Sphire
@saifalfalah @bluemonk482 @bentossell Because each and every one of these people will require this phone brand new? I think not. Notice where I said "certainly it will be a luxury", and "second hand 3310s will make their way for much cheaper", and "not everyone will have one of these for sure". The 3310 reboot will find it's niche - people making less than $2 a day will (by majority) not be that niche - considering they make $730 per day - yet SOME of them will have these reboots (maybe not new, but eventually). As for the electricity bit - sure they're resourceful, but let's see how resourceful you are during a 3 or 4 day blackout at night, and your Android phone will run out of battery in the next hour or so. Nowhere did I mention this as a brand recognition thing. If it was, people would much rather have a Samsung or other big brand that's tied to spec phones (which Nokia is not). Stop arguing for the sake of hearing yourself. As for showing me around - no thanks. I have plenty of other developer friends in India that I'd rather hang out with than you.
Saif Al Falah@saifalfalah · JavaScript Developer
@jsanc623 @bluemonk482 @bentossell You're funny. People can get a first hand Android phone starting at 30$ and they'll buy this joke of a phone, second hand. Give me a break. People use solar power to charge their phones. And there can't be a 3 or 4 day blackout "at night". Because you know, the sun rises. And thank you for being so friendly. I'm not sure that they'll be happy to hangout with you, as unpleasant as you are.
Juan Sanchez@jsanc623 · Founder @ Sphire
@saifalfalah @bluemonk482 @bentossell So everyone has access to solar panels (of any size)? You're pigeonholing everyone into one bucket of accessibility and discounting others. The initial price for this phone is $53 USD. How long until this finds its way to secondhand markets for a third or fourth of that price? Plus, not everyone needs an Android phone that requires constant charging (my case: sub saharan africa, where longevity is preferred over features (why dual sim? why "good enough battery" over "amazing battery"?). You're only thinking of 1 case (gen India).
Saif Al Falah@saifalfalah · JavaScript Developer
@jsanc623 @bluemonk482 @bentossell Yawn. Dude, I didn't know you had "sub saharan africa" all figured out. My apologies. Continue with your endless tirade.
Pablo Stanley@pablostanley · UX Designer
@joshlewis @saifalfalah I think my dad, who's a tech illiterate, would love this phone.
Ian-Simeon David@iandaves · Designer, Ianiverse Concepts
@matthewboyle25 Many developing countries have 4G LTE at least in Africa where I come from, and 3G is a fallback when LTE isn't available/in range, just not everyone has flawless access to it because not everyone has an LTE smartphone, masses can access 3G because there's a wider range of 3G enabling phones most people can afford. Don't always believe everything they say on the Telly.
Sam Cholera@sam_cholera · Founder @ iSpy Sport Search
@bentossell @saifalfalah People who want it simple. There IS still a huge market for this. If no GPRS, there is also another HUGE (sinister) market for this
Anh-Minh Do@minhistry · Director, Vertex Ventures
As a person who is hyperindexed and inundated with apps, social media, news, Netflix...I welcome such phones like this and the Light Phone (https://www.producthunt.com/post...). The thing is I use Messenger and Whatsapp as my main communication portals now. Not to mention that I want at least some minimal 4G or LTE powers, just in case I need internet on the road. So these dumb phones are useless, especially since very few people actually call me on the phone or use SMS. I'd gladly pay for a hardy (non-Android) phone that reliably uses a bare set of communication apps. Was hoping this Nokia could do that, alas... Here's a product idea, give me a tiny screen, tons of battery life, and a mild browser, and a handful of really needed apps. I'd easily pay $200 for it.
Matthew Boyle@matthewboyle25 · Matt
@minhistry Not sure how you can call this off as a dumb phone on the first day. Just because you don't receive calls anymore doesn't mean the rest of the world doesn't receive calls. There are 7 billion people in the world. Where Nokia fails to impress you, they may do wonders in emerging markets. Most people in those countries are on 2g connections and want something super basic.
Louis de Vaumas@louisdv · Co-founder @ CareMyCar
@minhistry I agree! The perfect phone will be a BB Bold (for the keyboard) with whatsapp / messenger / mail and 4G/LTE for tethering.
Anh-Minh Do@minhistry · Director, Vertex Ventures
@matthewboyle25 im not calling it a dumb phone per se. That's just the nomenclature for these types of phones. I didn't come up with that. It was created in contrast to smartphpne. Another term would be candy bar, i think. Having lived in a developing country for over 8 years, I'm well aware of those concerns, but I press you to note that those same countries are the ones that are moving faster into data than any other set of countries in the world.
Luca Hammer@luca · Blogger, Ambassadorbase
@minhistry This could have been the niche for Microsoft Lumia. I got a non tech savy relative of mine a Lumia 640 for 50€ (refurbished), battery lasts a week with low usage. She uses it mostly for Whats App. Smaller screen, bigger battery and they could have become what you wish for.
Jim Canto@jimcanto · Freedom hunter. Citizen dev. Solopreneur
@minhistry Bingo for me as well.
Jim Canto@jimcanto · Freedom hunter. Citizen dev. Solopreneur
@louisdv @minhistry ... Sidekick revival... with contemporary features and opsys?
Robin Solis@robin_solis · Co-Founder, Synchronicity.co
@minhistry @matthewboyle25 I may have been the first to even use the term, smartphone in 1995 but back then, what I envisioned was a screen display with buttons that were assigned. Missed it by that much.
Adham Badr@adhambad
@minhistry http://www.blloc.com we're exactly doing that. get in touch if you want an early device access
Helen Crozier@helencrozier · Evernote Certified Consultant
@minhistry lightphone is also limited to 2G - unusable here in Australia 😿
Anh-Minh Do@minhistry · Director, Vertex Ventures
@helencrozier yeah. Unfortunate. It could have been so much more.
Anh-Minh Do@minhistry · Director, Vertex Ventures
@adhambad Awesome. This looks really cool. Really want to try it out. Contacted on the website. :)
Helen Crozier@helencrozier · Evernote Certified Consultant
@adhambad @minhistry exciting looking phone - I just added my name to your database too.
Max Engel@8bitkid · Creator of Awecelot, Co-founder of Quill
@adhambad where are you based? very interesting concept.
Adham Badr@adhambad
@8bitkid thanks, Berlin.
Max Engel@8bitkid · Creator of Awecelot, Co-founder of Quill
@adhambad there are some minor copy tweaks to your homepage I'd recommend. I love the concept and think it fits in with the critical necessity to ensure that work is a focused task with discrete boundaries.
Louis de Vaumas@louisdv · Co-founder @ CareMyCar
@adhambad @minhistry Really interesting phone! Will be very happy to beta test it :)
Adham Badr@adhambad
@8bitkid awesome thanks. yes please would be great if you get in touch with your copy recommendations.
Max Engel@8bitkid · Creator of Awecelot, Co-founder of Quill
@adhambad let me know your email or DM it to me on Twitter
Juho S@juhslk · All great roads go through PH
What we need is phone that helps to reduce our addiction to the internet. Nokia 3310 with original shape and shell + Screen replaced with E-ink display (increases battery life by 200%) + 3G connectivity for pristine audio quality for calls + Whatsapp phone calls and messages with no notifications / disturbances + Big battery and usb charging - No camera needed, no fancy box and manuals, cables Most importantly made to last, all components and design with this in mind. Making it in Europe, Asia just doesn't wake up rugged / ever lasting quality in consumers.
Patrik Csak
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@ptrkcsk · Front-End Dev + UX @ Hoffman Academy
Price: €49 (~$52) OS: Nokia Series 30+ Display: 2.4” QVGA Battery: - 1200 mAh - Up to 22.1 hours talk time - Up to 31 days standby time - Up to 51 hours MP3 playback time - Up to 39 hours FM radio playback time Colors: - Warm Red (Glossy) - Dark Blue (Matte) - Yellow (Glossy) - Grey (Matte) Storage: - 16 MB internal memory - MicroSD card slot with support for up to 32 GB card Camera: 2 MP Network speed: 2G Networks: GSM 900/1800 MHz Audio: - 3.5 mm AV connector - FM radio app - MP3 player app Connectivity: - Micro USB (USB 2.0) - Bluetooth 3.0 with SLAM
Jakub Kejha@shod4n · UI, UX, Web & Graphic Designer
@ptrkcsk Too bad it's only 2G.
Chen Zeev@bulleitandcoke · Co-founder of Clippy and ClippyCam
@shod4n given it's not a smart phone, what do you care?
Cem Carak@cemedericarak · Entrepreneur - WhatTuDu & PlanItUp
@ptrkcsk Thanks for posting the specs. I was really curious about them. After seeing this, I cant stress more that this phone is a total flop and waste of Nokia's energy, time and resources. It is a good marketing stunt to get the name out again but put aside the out dated design of the phone, they really needed to provide some crazy performance advantage in order to really succeed. I am talking very long lasting battery for talk... Great amount of storage internally. New interface that could possibly connect to the Android store or Apple store for apps. And obviously 4G LTE compatibility is a big one... Last but not least, a low price point. But unfortunately it doesn't seem to be that way...
Jim Canto@jimcanto · Freedom hunter. Citizen dev. Solopreneur
@shod4n @ptrkcsk Exactly.
Jim Canto@jimcanto · Freedom hunter. Citizen dev. Solopreneur
@bulleitandcoke @shod4n It could be smarter.
@bulleitandcoke most operators are taking down their 2G antennas, no matter what class the country is in..
Arun Sathiya@arunsathiya · Marketing, Freshworks
@bulleitandcoke @shod4n VoLTE support for HD voice calls?