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Would you recommend this product?
Zoli GeroOwner, Bizdev
noah kaganChief Sumo, AppSumo.com
Hunter
We are reviewing pricing but wanted a web version as this was the major bottle neck for most people to use KingSumo.
Joe TiewDeveloper - QOBC Dot Com
I've just bought KingSumo WP Developer version (Lifetime) a few months ago, too bad it's now releasing SAAS version (Monthly), can you offer free upgrade or one-time upgrade cost (like AppSumo's other product - $39 or $49 for Lifetime) to all existing users?
I hope you will seriously consider this suggestion. Thanks!
Stephen CampbellPM | USPTO
Which was your recommendation? And how'd you feel about Vyper?
Etienne JuneauExercise scientist, founder, dreamer
I bought the lifetime license 3 months back. Are they going to charge me monthly now to get the new features? Feels like a bad deal.
Pros:Same as previous version (Wordpress plugin with 1-time payment)
Cons:Now monthly payments (SaaS model)
noah kaganChief Sumo, AppSumo.com
Hunter
The fully customizable and self-hosted version is 1-time payment and we made this version completely free. The paid version removes branding. We are evaluating the pricing. Thanks for the comment. The team worked super hard to make this for you.
Michael FollingFounder/CEO LimitlessDesigns.io
I guess that's fair they'll keep supporting the plugin if we don't want to pay for the SaaS version. I'm disappointed that they would position the new version as "free for you as an existing customer" when there's absolutely no additional benefit to being an existing customer. They should just say it's free for everyone.
Etienne JuneauExercise scientist, founder, dreamer
@michaelfolling Same thought here lol, that's just misleading and bad marketing. Way to alienate your customers guys, well done!
noah kaganChief Sumo, AppSumo.com
Hunter
@michaelfolling Hey Michael. We are a work in progress. Thanks for the feedback.
noah kaganChief Sumo, AppSumo.com
Hunter
@michaelfolling @etiennej Did not mean to mislead at all. Just should have said we added a web version. I want to thank the guys who sweated to make this for people. Hope you like it and love any feedback on the product itself.
Scott Wyden KivowitzPhotographer / Marketing @ Imagely
Noah, if the plugin is going to a saas model, what happens to all the lifetime plugin owners?
Scott Wyden KivowitzPhotographer / Marketing @ Imagely
@noahkagan will lifetime users get access to the paid web app or only free access?
Etienne JuneauExercise scientist, founder, dreamer
@noahkagan @scottwyden Same question here. Will lifetime users get access to the paid web app or only free access (that everyone has anyway?)
noah kaganChief Sumo, AppSumo.com
Hunter
@scottwyden hey Scott. There is no real benefit to paid as we gave all the features for free. Some people want no branding and to fully customize the giveaway so you'll always have lifetime access to the plugin. We are evaluating pricing.
Love all comments. The team worked hard so want to thank them!
Scott Wyden KivowitzPhotographer / Marketing @ Imagely
@noahkagan The custom branding is a major selling point of the WP plugin. You're forcing people to pay for it again if they plan on switching to the saas system. My recommendation would give lifetime WP plugin users access to the same thing in the saas system.
noah kaganChief Sumo, AppSumo.com
Hunter
@scottwyden Morning Scott. Email me and I'll take care of you.
I get both sides. But its kinda like saying if you buy 1 thing from a company then any future thing should be given? What do you recommend? I'd like your input.
Devin RajaramPartner (UI, UX & CRO), Wayfx.com
Link returns a 404 error :/
noah kaganChief Sumo, AppSumo.com
Hunter
@devinrajaram Is it working now Devin?
I organized 4 giveaways, Vyper, Kingsumo, Upviral,Viralloops. The one and only PRO of Kingsumo was the one-time fee and no-recurring monthy fee. Less than 35% if subscribers opens my emails - and usually my CLICK rate is over 40%+.
Maybe it's worth it when you sell something for lifetime then you change the model. just like Kingsumo is doing now... Beside that, lots of freeloader crappy leads, lack of positioning. This entire model sucks, lots of hype and doesn't provide value.
Pros:one-time fee was the only pro
Cons:sold me as lifetime, changed model to saas + lots of crappy leads