Kin Euphorics

This sounds pretty exciting, if the effects are on par with what's being shared here. My only concern is the phenibut, a drug usually available under prescription in Russia (but sold in a somewhat gray area) is a key ingredient. Phenibut helps with social anxiety and can give a sense of euphoria, which makes sense why it's in the Kin formula. However, doses as much as a few hundred mg can be addictive with regular consumption.

Mingling in the ingredients is 'Phenibut' (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ph...), a notably euphoric GABAergic sedative-anxiolytic not dissimilar to alcohol, but with only decades (vs millennia) of history of human consumption. It's a controlled substance in Australia, a prescription drug in Russia, and a widely used recreational drug everywhere else. Like any drug or medication, but especially of this category, it has known side-effects, a limited dose-response curve/overdose limit, cross-interactions with other drugs, and chronic consumption produces tolerance, dependance/addiction, and withdrawal. For these fairly mundane reasons, it seems like it would be appropriate for the product/website to be more upfront about the inclusion of Phenibut as an ingredient, and display *how much* it contains, so customers can practice safe/careful consumption.

It’s been a lot of fun to grab some mixers and garnishes and make my own Kin creations. Cant wait to get my next shipment and see what comes next for Kin!

Pros:

It’s a fun alcohol alternative that actually makes you feel a buzz, without impacting your health. Unique and well rounded botanical taste.

Cons:

It’s great as it is.

Thanks for sharing Kin, @chrismessina! Hello everyone, I'm new to the PH community and appreciate the warm welcome. We're still in our early stages of defining what all Kin can be/do/inspire for a world of thoughtful revelers and are grateful for your feedback. #AMA Kin exists because a sophisticated, well-stacked, and thoughtful alternative did not .... not at the bar anyway. Like many of you, we were seeing our own alcohol consumption decline with the rise of our own ambitions (and experience - turns out, hangovers are the devil). That said, we're not making this product just so people can get a (not so) cheap alternative high. And we're definitely not curing hangovers. We believe in achieving bliss by working with the biochemistry of the individual, not against it. Our blend of rhodiola rosea (a powerful adaptogen) and functional herbs that are calming to the nervous system work to balance adrenals and your endocrinology which helps pave the way for nootropics like citicoline, gaba, and tyrosine to support cognition and deliver a subtle rise of focused relaxation. Key word: subtle rise. Our formulation philosophy aligns with our mission to give more people more reasons to revel together, uniting all creatives by way of sound mind and subtly elevated experiences. One serving of Kin contains a microdose of each listed ingredient, intended to deliver a fraction (1/8-1/4) of a standard supplemental dosage of each, so Kin can be enjoyed mixed and sipped throughout the night. The goal was to help you rise with confidence and revel smarter, no matter who you're with or where you are. Cheers! Jen Batchelor jen@kineuphorics.com

I've tried it using a few different servings sizes and flavor combinations to make it palatable. It tastes like grass and burnt leaves and I don't see how it's 12 servings worth. The first time I tried it, I felt that warm kind of body buzz you get when you first start to feel drunk. I kind of liked it, but it only lasted about 10 minutes and then I felt kind of disoriented and gross. I gave it a chance a few more times and felt nothing. I had such high hopes based on the reviews and thought that even if I didn't feel anything when I took it, then hopefully I'd at least feel good the next day like others had claimed. Last night, I thought I'd give it one more shot since i spent almost $50 on a drink that doesn't even get you drunk. That was a mistake. I didn't really feel anything until about 2 hours later when there was a rumbly in my tummy. I thought I just had done farts trying to find their way out. Like the old adage says; never trust a fart. I went to go sit on the toilet just in case because I didn't want to shart on the couch and deal with that mess. Well let me tell you, I am so glad I'm so distrustful. What came out of me was like a torrential downpour of hot liquid poop. This was beyond diarrhea. This was butt mud. It just kept coming out of me. After about 15 minutes of farts and anal leakage, I went back to watching Netflix. It was bedtime by this point but I decided bed wasn't a safe option because I didn't want to poop in my safe haven. So I stayed up and watched another episode, taking a few potty breaks in between. I pooped so much, my body was literally sore and dehydrated from losing so much liquid. It had been a few hours and I still didn't trust myself to go to bed, so I stayed up watching Netflix in the living room right next to the bathroom. It is early morning and my stomach is still upset, so I made the executive decision not to go to work because I didn't think I could live down a shitty britches nickname. I believe Kin owes me a refund, money I missed out on from not working, compensation for my pain and suffering, and my butthole an apology. All in all, I would not recommend this product at all unless you're making a drink for someone you hate.

Pros:

Literally nothing

Cons:

Make it taste better and make it live up to its claims

This would be a really cool product if it actually did what it claims to.

Pros:

Alcohol substitute

Cons:

Expensive. Does absolutely nothing. Waste of money

I truly didn't feel anything from this. The packaging warns to not consume more than four servings in 24 hours, so I started with one, then another, all the way up to four, in hopes of experiencing its intended effect. I honestly don't think I felt even remotely different... not to mention, it tastes fairly unpleasant. I would return it if I could.

Pros:

Aesthetically pleasing

Cons:

No effect, bad taste