Kin Euphorics makes the world's first euphorics: a new way to wind down for those seeking conscious connection after dark. Euphorics are created with the finest ingredients ranging from nootropics and adaptogenic plants to flavorful botanics.

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Linnéaaina rauhaa!
Mingling in the ingredients is 'Phenibut' (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ph...), a notably euphoric GABAergic sedative-anxiolytic not dissimilar to alcohol, but with only decades (vs millennia) of history of human consumption. It's a controlled substance in Australia, a prescription drug in Russia, and a widely used recreational drug everywhere else. Like any drug or medication, but especially of this category, it has known side-effects, a limited dose-response curve/overdose limit, cross-interactions with other drugs, and chronic consumption produces tolerance, dependance/addiction, and withdrawal. For these fairly mundane reasons, it seems like it would be appropriate for the product/website to be more upfront about the inclusion of Phenibut as an ingredient, and display *how much* it contains, so customers can practice safe/careful consumption.
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Jen Batchelor
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pleasure-hacking @KinEuphorics.
@o5skuumh_ What’s up Linnea! You’ll be happy to learn that Kin no longer contains phenibut. We reformulated back in February with the goal of lowering caffeine and realized that without it the GABA could stand on its own. We agree that phenibut has notoriously been abused and hope that someone someday finds a way to incorporate this ingredient in a way the FDA can find a use for so folks can experience the benefits while knowing understanding the risks involved. We’re lucky we were able to share our original version with thousands of users with no adverse reaction but the next maker may not be so careful in their curation of the stack. Good looking out!
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Jen Batchelor
Maker
pleasure-hacking @KinEuphorics.
Thanks for sharing Kin, @chrismessina! Hello everyone, I'm new to the PH community and appreciate the warm welcome. We're still in our early stages of defining what all Kin can be/do/inspire for a world of thoughtful revelers and are grateful for your feedback. #AMA Kin exists because a sophisticated, well-stacked, and thoughtful alternative did not .... not at the bar anyway. Like many of you, we were seeing our own alcohol consumption decline with the rise of our own ambitions (and experience - turns out, hangovers are the devil). That said, we're not making this product just so people can get a (not so) cheap alternative high. And we're definitely not curing hangovers. We believe in achieving bliss by working with the biochemistry of the individual, not against it. Our blend of rhodiola rosea (a powerful adaptogen) and functional herbs that are calming to the nervous system work to balance adrenals and your endocrinology which helps pave the way for nootropics like citicoline, gaba, and tyrosine to support cognition and deliver a subtle rise of focused relaxation. Key word: subtle rise. Our formulation philosophy aligns with our mission to give more people more reasons to revel together, uniting all creatives by way of sound mind and subtly elevated experiences. One serving of Kin contains a microdose of each listed ingredient, intended to deliver a fraction (1/8-1/4) of a standard supplemental dosage of each, so Kin can be enjoyed mixed and sipped throughout the night. The goal was to help you rise with confidence and revel smarter, no matter who you're with or where you are. Cheers! Jen Batchelor jen@kineuphorics.com
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Michael I. BrooksCommunity Coordinator, FGF
This sounds pretty exciting, if the effects are on par with what's being shared here. My only concern is the phenibut, a drug usually available under prescription in Russia (but sold in a somewhat gray area) is a key ingredient. Phenibut helps with social anxiety and can give a sense of euphoria, which makes sense why it's in the Kin formula. However, doses as much as a few hundred mg can be addictive with regular consumption.
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Matthew Cauble
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@michaelibrooks this is a very important point. Phenibut, citicholine, 5-thp and caffeine have strong effects at high doses. The beauty of drinks is the regulated consumption. A Kin drink has less than 150mg of Phenibut and we guide people to drink less than four in a day. We know how hard it is to make something that’s safe. That’s why we listen to our customers and constantly improve.
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joshua bradley
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@michaelibrooks @caublestone "The beauty of drinks is the regulated consumption." <- this has historically played out well with all kinds of things, alcohol, sugar, pain killers...
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Ryan Hoover
Founder, Product Hunt
So much of culture revolves around alcohol, a social lubricant that brings people together but sometimes many people don't want to drink. I used to skip on many parties or nights out in college because I didn't want to sip on a beer and yell over terrible music at the local pub. 😆 Excited to see Kin shipping (my order arrives soon – disclaimer: I'm in investor) and other alcohol alternatives like Recess enter the market.
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Was skeptical at first but this product really works! Shared half a bottle with friends before going out and it really created a vibe. The conversation was flowing and everyone was feeling great. We all felt super clear and on point too. I found it mixed well with some soda and lemon - it adds its own herbal aroma/taste. 0 calories too which is a major plus! Curious if they will launch other flavors.
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