Karmic Kyoto

A modern electric bike built for women

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HongMaker@quan · Mechanic, Karmic Bikes
Hi Hunters! Thanks for hunting us Eric! It means a lot that you're a Koben backer from last year, and then pledged for a Kyoto as soon as we launched. We love seeing a Karmic Family where everyone is riding together and having fun. I'm happy to be on PH and would love to answer any questions about the bike, starting up (in a garage, self-funding) and making great products for the Kickstarter community and beyond. Cheers, Hong
Pascal Andy@_pascalandy · Cofounder at a "stealth startup"
Hong, No idea what makes it "for woman". I'm sure you would have more pledge without this sexist statement.
Derek ShanahanPro@dshan · Three Hex, Cloud Unicorn
@_pascalandy ? Bikes tend to be gender-built, you realize that right? The frames are different.
Rich Lowenberg@richlowenberg · Halo Neuroscience
@dshan @_pascalandy In the US biking culture tends to see different frames as for men or women - although in a lot of countries the frame type seen here isn't gendered. I moved from Amsterdam to San Francisco and ride a "women's" bike, it's just way easier to get on and off it, and sitting upright is more comfortable. That said, there are plenty of products that target a specific gender as a marketing strategy, I don't think that's sexist, but it might cut out some of the market. I'd agree that I don't see anything on this bike though that would make it less applicable to men. Perhaps there are cost savings by only building smaller frames?
Pascal Andy@_pascalandy · Cofounder at a "stealth startup"
@dshan I guess I'm not bike savvy enough LOL. @rich Lowenberg 1000% agreeing I own a scooter (piaggio), and I don't think there such a thing like a man or woman scooter and I guess this is where my logic is coming from. I'm really looking for a electric bike solution. By the woman vs man thing is turns me off.
HongMaker@quan · Mechanic, Karmic Bikes
@richlowenberg @dshan @_pascalandy Thanks Rich! I actually ride the Kyoto myself.
HongMaker@quan · Mechanic, Karmic Bikes
@_pascalandy @dshan @rich Then just get a Koben. ;)
Rich Lowenberg@richlowenberg · Halo Neuroscience
Beautiful design on this. After five years of regular use, what state will the battery be in and will it be easy to find a replacement?
HongMaker@quan · Mechanic, Karmic Bikes
@richlowenberg Thanks! This uses the Shimano battery, which is readily available and will likely be better and/or cheaper in 5 years. We designed the bike to be useful and easy to own, and hope people ride it for many years.
Derek ShanahanPro@dshan · Three Hex, Cloud Unicorn
Awesome product. What makes your ebikes different from the competition? And why'd you choose to build an ebikes company now - it seems like bike tech has gotten more attention the last few years, why is that?
HongMaker@quan · Mechanic, Karmic Bikes
@dshan Thanks Derek! We didn't see any really great ebikes out there that weren't ridiculously expensive, so I started Karmic a few years ago to make a great bike at a more affordable price. After the success of the Koben, we talked to more people about why they *don't* ride. The Kyoto incorporates a lot of that user-research and feedback from Koben owners as well. The ebike space is definitely heating up. There's just a convergence of better batteries, mid-drive motors and more public acceptance of riding bikes as transportation. It's only going to get better!
Dan Driscoll@dan_driscoll
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HongMaker@quan · Mechanic, Karmic Bikes
@dan_driscoll clear eyes, full battery pack, can't lose!