The Diversity Avatars collection is an exploration of the beauty and diversity of people and cultures around the world, including all walks of life, religions, and nationalities. UPDATE April 5, 2019 : 750 avatars - https://diversityavatars.com/the-avatars
@angeliquesocial Hi Angie. I'm glad you asked. @ramywafaa and I have been friends for a few years and we have often talked about how much negativity and hate there is in the world. Ramy is Egyptian and I am American. We both feel strongly that the world and people are beautiful and that the world needs more compassion and acceptance. We wanted to work together on a project to bring more positivity and empathy to the word. Diversity Avatars was the culmination of many, many chats. We are really happy that you like them.
@ramywafaa@iconifyit thank you for explaining the background of your project. I will get in touch with you as soon as my project is completed and share how I made use of your icons 🙌
Lots of beautiful icons in here, although I'm thoroughly perplexed by your inclusion of genocidal dictators like Josef Stalin and neo-fascists like Donald Trump?
@jordankrueger Thanks for the feedback. We include important figures because we want the set to be useful for a variety of types of uses including editorial and educational. The figures you mention are chosen for their historical significance not because we in any way endorse homicidal dictators or fascists. It's a tough call but design has an important role to play in dialog and education and we think it's important to include them.
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@iconifyit That answer would make sense in any other context, but the fact that these icons are so "cartoony" adds a sort of levity and charm to the characters that feels really distasteful.
@jordankrueger I respect your right to your own opinion but disagree. Look, the fact is, we're trying to do something good. Our motives are good and we are trying to contribute to positivity and compassion in the world. Calling it "distasteful" seems a bit harsh.
@jordankrueger It seems to me that given how much division and animosity there is in the world that the focus would be on the fact that we've tried to depict all cultures, religions, races, nationalities from a position of compassion and celebrating beauty, Instead, you seem focused on the one thing that you personally don't like. To be honest, I'm kind of hurt by the "distasteful" comment and the fact that you manage to find a negative in something that has been received overwhelmingly positive.
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@iconifyit "We're trying to do something good" – well, as they say, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. That's nothing but a craven excuse when we're talking about transforming a genocidal maniac like Stalin into an adorable cartoon character. You're belittling the gravity of their crimes by depicting them in this way.
I totally appreciate the artwork and your desire to create a diverse icon pack! I just cannot understand why you'd spoil the bunch by including these bad apples. Why distract from what you're trying to do?
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Hi Scott and Ramy,
well done. Why don't you get in touch with us at kartunix.com?
We are always seraching for great sets of avatars and your work for sure fits that description!
Hey everyone, just a quick note to let you know that you can follow our progress at https://diversityavatars.com/ico...
The avatars take quite a bit of time to create because we are pretty meticulous with the technical details of the files but also in researching the different people and groups that we represent in the set. When we decided to create the set, we set a few rules for ourselves. This list is not exhaustive but they are:
1. Do not rely on assumptions, stereotypes, or our own pre-conceived ideas. Research, ask questions, learn. (NOTE: Some of the rough drafts _may_ violate this rule because they are sketches, not finished designs. The goal was to get the ideas on (virtual) paper quickly so we have a starting point from which to work. They will still be rigorously reviewed and refined as needed).
2. Do not depict anyone in a negative light. The goal is empathy. We are not about judgment, except in some fairly obvious exceptions, but even then, we try to remain neutral so that designers can use, subvert, modify the avatars as needed.
3. Accuracy and quality are more important than speed. If users have to wait a little longer, that is fine as long as we deliver the highest quality product we can.
Thank you for your support. It has been truly humbling. @ramywafaa and I have put a lot of our shared passion into this and are really encouraged by the almost-universal positive reaction.
One more quick note, you can also suggest an avatar or avatars at the same link above. If you are considering buying the set and there are any avatars in the "Progress" preview you need, or there are some you need, in general, let us know. We cannot promise, but we will do our best to include them in the upcoming release. We will be making 1,000 avatars just to start so it doesn't make much difference to us which ones we create when. If you need them, we want to do our best to add them.
Cheers,
Ramy & Scott
Hey everyone. We really appreciate the support. To say "Thank You", we have created a coupon code especially for Product Hunt users. Just use coupon code PRODUCTHUNT and get 25% off of the collection. Cheers!
We wanted to let followers and fans know that we are removing the images of Stalin, Lenin, and Trump. Going forward, we will have much more strict guidelines about whom we include. I would like to take a moment to explain, first, why we included these controversial figures to begin with and why we have had a change of mind and heart.
First, I (Scott) never wanted to include them and protested including them. I'm not throwing my partner, Ramy, under the bus. There is no "fault" here. Ramy and the rest of the team presented a strong argument and, being a democratic team, I was outvoted. I reluctantly agreed to include them for that reason. I also agreed to (or perhaps rationalized) this decision because our view was that other designers could/might subvert the images. We agreed that the figures have historical relevance and therefor were acceptable for journalistic reasons.
But let me state clearly: We have decided that our original decision was wrong. It is that simple. Ramy and I both are compassionate, caring people. This is the basis of how our friendship - a friendship between an Egyptian Arab Christian and an American atheist began. It is the glue that binds our friendship. But we are also fallible.
As the political climate and discourse in the world becomes more heated and more polarized, especially in the United States, it is very difficult to remain neutral. Recent events in the US involve the current administration doing everything in their power to dehumanize and "other" anyone who is not white. I realize many will disagree with this statement and we may lose customers. That is a risk I am happy to accept because this issue is much bigger and much more important the the money we make from this product. The important issue is taking a moral stand and clearly stating that we will not participate in the denigration and disenfranchisement of ANYONE based on their race, ethnicity, sexual orientation, religion, or nationality. I would like to say that political ideology is included in that list but it simply isn't. Political ideology goes to the core of one's world view and belief about people. And some political ideologies ARE better than others and more right than others. I am a fiscal and economic conservative. As a small business owner, it is difficult to be anything else. But I cannot agree even in the slightest with right-wing social ideas or policies.
Earlier today I came across a post on Dribbble, the popular social media site for designers that promoted a design challenge to win an invite to the site using an image of Hitler as the "mascot". I was immediately repulsed by this notion. The designer claims that he chose hitler only because he is "recognizable" but I don't buy it. I think the designer intentionally chose Hitler because it would stir up controversy. It is a cynical, completely insensitive and unethical choice to get attention at any cost.
My comments to this designer and my outrage immediately made me think of the polite, and let's just say, "not so polite" protests to our inclusion of figures associated with bigotry, racism, and hate. I was embarrassed and humbled that I did not previously see that my own choice was suspect and very misguided.
We wholeheartedly apologize for any pain that our previous decision caused. We were not intentionally insensitive but we accept full responsibility and recognize now why the decision was in error. I do believe there are media and forms where our decision _might_ have been defensible, but as Jordan Kreuger pointed out, the style of this set is not one such instance. It is a light-hearted style and depicting the likes of Stalin, Lenin, and Trump suggests a harmlessness and friendliness that is not accurate or appropriate.
We hope that you will accept our explanation and apology. For whatever else that it is, it is sincere.
We are also aware that many will disagree, maybe passionately. We respect your right to disagree and your right to express that disagreement. But we will not change our minds on this. We have thoroughly examined the issue and, more importantly, our own consciences and we have concluded that at the end of the day, the only argument that is relevant is that as artists, we cannot and will not be compelled to use our creative talents to promote, endorse, or even appear to do so any idea or figure with whom we have a moral objection.
It will take us a bit of time to update the product on all marketplaces so please bear with us while we get them all replaced. This work will start immediately and will hopefully be completed today, June 28.
Thank you,
Ramy and Scott
@verenaburger Currently there are 200 avatars in the set but we are working on 800 more for a total of 1,000. We will be publishing 100 new avatars about every 6 weeks. You can follow our progress here : https://diversityavatars.com/pro... - But please don't judge the lack of aesthetics on that page too harshly. We opted to spend time on the avatars instead. :-)
@verenaburger We have updated the collection with 550 new avatars for a total of 750. Buy the collection now and get 50% as well as the next 250 avatars at no extra charge.
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