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'Largest & most informative' bot store in the world

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Ben Tossell
Hunter
@bentossell · Community Lead, Product Hunt
Just stumbled across this site, which is similar to what I built recently - botlist. As expected, there are a few similar sites cropping up (it was obviously going to happen) Now the tagline says 'largest and most informative bot store' - this is something I'd purposefully avoided with botlist. Because the second that it may not be just that, then it looks bad. BotArena seems to have done a good job but, for example, there are only around 24 bots in the slack section - when, in reality, slack has over 400 listed on their Slack App Directory I think its good to have different sites crop up in the 'bot store' space but I don't think the best way to compete is to try and be 'bigger' - and use that as the defining 'differentiator'. Bot discovery is difficult and that is should be what is considered when building a 'bot store'.
Andrey Tkachenko@tkachenko · Founder AppStor.io
"Largest and most informative bot store in world" with few bots? LOL... I also create few month ago small bots directory - BotsBook.com ( https://www.producthunt.com/tech... ) - may be few days before botslist is runned ...(idea and domain registration - 2016-04-04 ) But botsbook more smaller than botslist of couse... Bots list its popular idea today for web developers... As i see today we have really many bots stores / catalogs - but without real leader... Today realy big stores by traffiic botlist.co and storebot.me https://www.similarweb.com/websi...
Ben Tossell
Hunter
@bentossell · Community Lead, Product Hunt
@tkachenko yeh I find it strange when a company uses that as the selling hook for their site. it can often do more harm than good. yeah botlist is still doing well and we are getting lots of users and pageviews still. working on some things :)
ananda verma
Maker
@rahulvit09
@bentossell Let me thank you for submitting it here. Yes, botarena.co is definitely not the largest bot store right now, but you know its more like a marketing term. What we are really trying to do is, to make it more informative and thats why submission process takes lot of time. We are really not towards just populating it. So It might take us long time to become largest but we definitely are the most informative :)
Ben Tossell
Hunter
@bentossell · Community Lead, Product Hunt
@rahulvit09 not sure using that as 'a marketing term' is a good idea to be honest - just seems misleading. Keen to hear how it is more informative too - and what will keep it more informative? both botlist and botarena have description, media and review system
Andrey Tkachenko@tkachenko · Founder AppStor.io
@rahulvit09 @bentossell also we put into site footer - San Francisco, CA 94105 But domain register from India... its realy US based website?
Ben Tossell
Hunter
@bentossell · Community Lead, Product Hunt
@tkachenko @rahulvit09 I saw that and thought the same! wondering if the 'San Francisco, CA 94105' is a misleading marketing tactic too
ananda verma
Maker
@rahulvit09
@bentossell Yes, Both has description but when I goto botlist I only find bot name then i need to go to other links to figure out what it is and how to get started using it. We are trying to put that information in description and not accepting any bot which doesn't provide enough info for anyone to get started using it. We will definitely take back the "largest" word from our meta.
Ben Tossell
Hunter
@bentossell · Community Lead, Product Hunt
@rahulvit09 we have lots of bots with description, images etc etc - it becomes harder when manually inputting over 700 bots ;)
ananda verma
Maker
@rahulvit09
@bentossell Agree to that and thats the reason we have less than 100 bots right now.
ananda verma
Maker
@rahulvit09
@tkachenko @bentossell We will definitely change that too. My other friend who designs UI works from CA.
Ramesh Padala@rameshdot0 · Maker of flexbot.ai & yogatailor
@bentossell checked it out. its definitely not the largest list. Slack's own list seems larger! :) Having said that, good to see more of these coming up. upvoted
ananda verma
Maker
@rahulvit09
@rameshdot0 Thanks for your upvote. We are receiving lot of submissions and slowly reviewing and approving it. Soon we will cover all bots.
Jason Shultz@thehashrocket · Senior Software Engineer, 3form
@rahulvit09 @bentossell then why even say "we're the biggest" when by your own admission you're not? As you said "...but you know its more like a marketing term" which is to say it's a lie. As someone who has spent years working in marketing saying things like "we're the biggest" or "we're the best" is just wasted space. Everyone knows it's a lie. Those who don't and go to your site and can see for themselves it's not the truth will be turned off by it as well. In the end, everyone will distrust you. Why resort to car dealer style tactics? Promote what you're really trying to do and stop misleading people. You're trying to do something good and different, don't fall into the trap of misleading people just to get page views. You're better than that.
ananda verma
Maker
@rahulvit09
@thehashrocket @bentossell Sure we will take that advice and change it right away. Thanks a lot.
Jason Shultz@thehashrocket · Senior Software Engineer, 3form
@rahulvit09 @bentossell No worries! I understand the pressure you guys are under. You've got a good product, it looks great, and it's an increasingly crowded market. You're going to stand out, though, and you'll do it for the right reasons, I know it. :)
Pocket@p0cket · Not the hero Gotham deserves
@bentossell And 3 bots in the Messenger section...
ananda verma
Maker
@rahulvit09
@p0cket We are on super fuel to add more. Its just that review process takes time.
Stefan Kojouharov@stefan_kojouharov
@bentossell I agree with you.... Even after the emergence of the Apple Store and the Play store you still have hundreds of sites that offered to feature your app for a price. Recently Spoke with one of FB Messenger's Product Managers and he expects FB to use the Open Graph to drive discover.
Uri Eliabayev@urieli17 · Foundr, AutoHash
what is the difference between botarena and botlist?
ananda verma
Maker
@rahulvit09
@urieli17 Botlist is the largest bot directory and botarena is more informative.
Ben Tossell
Hunter
@bentossell · Community Lead, Product Hunt
@rahulvit09 @urieli17 I feel like they have similar levels both have description, media and review system
ananda verma
Maker
@rahulvit09
@bentossell @urieli17 Its not just about having description section but more about what is there in description.
Hassan Abdulhamid@uxdzen · CEO Skylar Labs (Hyphen)
We need a "bot" that recommends other bots. /give me a bot that can help me do "this and that"
Ben Tossell
Hunter
@bentossell · Community Lead, Product Hunt
@uxdzen we have built a slackbot for botlist... coming soon :) cc @sethlouey There is also bot hunter bot
Shiv@shivkanthb · Make, break and ship.
@bentossell Thats awesome. Im actually building one on telegram and messenger (with data from Botlist). Integrate maybe? @sethlouey
ananda verma
Maker
@rahulvit09
@bentossell @uxdzen @sethlouey Thats really great. We will list it on BotArena :P
Walter Reid@walterareid · Product
"Bot Arena", "Bot List", "Bots Book"... Forget the "bot store" and get me a bot search site already. All these curated/stash sites remind me too heavily of yahoo directories from 16 years ago
Ben Tossell
Hunter
@bentossell · Community Lead, Product Hunt
@walterareid I get you... I cant speak for the others but having some form of review process means that things like pornographic content can be avoided - an issue that I've seen a lot of on the telegram bot store. Also as we all know, discovery on the apple app store is broken too. Adding thousands of bots into an 'app store' would just make it feel too overwhelming in my opinion. Which is why we have the approach we do at botlist.co - nothing is perfect and there is a long way to go in this space but what we did was try to avoid the overwhelming experience and inappropriate content. Lots can change
Umit Akcan@umitakcn · Designer, lives in 🇰🇷
it would be better to add links to cards not only names and thumbnails.
ananda verma
Maker
@rahulvit09
@umitakcn Sure, we will do that. Thanks for your feedback.