Mark Spivey@ausonio · Owner, SoundFunnel
Looks exactly like Hypem in that Spotify are profiting off other people's hard work. Even worse, Spotify aren't providing the blogs or music outlets with any credit for these discoveries.
Gabe Grimley@gmgrimley · Co-Owner, Pet Fox Studios
@ausonio Edit: Confusion resolved.
Mark Spivey@ausonio · Owner, SoundFunnel
@gmgrimley I'm referencing the following quote from their blog: "By combining early online buzz across blogs and music news sites with billions of listening hours on Spotify, we can identify anonymous listening patterns around fans that already listen to more up and coming music" and referring specifically to the "blogs and music news sites", not artists. N… See more
Gabe Grimley@gmgrimley · Co-Owner, Pet Fox Studios
@ausonio That makes more sense - I didn't read the blog. (Sidenote: I would definitely argue that new artists can in fact be discovered through Spotify. Sites such as CDBaby and RouteNote make getting on Spotify super simple as an artist. An artist with one song can get on Spotify in less than 2 weeks.) So I see that you edited your comment, so I can't t… See more
Mark Spivey@ausonio · Owner, SoundFunnel
@gmgrimley As per my response to @ColeMercer's comment, I would agree with you that it's very easily to be on Spotify these days and there are more and more artists who host their music across all online platforms. I believe my other argument still stands though, how do people discover new artists in Spotify? Bear in mind that I'm talking cutting/bleeding … See more
Gabe Grimley@gmgrimley · Co-Owner, Pet Fox Studios
@ausonio I guess I would say that, for my own entertainment and to generate a little bit of content for my recording studio's website, I "discover" new artists daily on Spotify. Artists with 0-100 followers, all songs <1000 plays. This _does_ depend up on Spotify's Related Artist lists (not totally sure what computations or algorithms go into that), but I… See more
Mark Spivey@ausonio · Owner, SoundFunnel
@gmgrimley You do this through the app or via their API? I agree on the monetization and I believe the artists do too which I why I have seen a huge shift over the past few years where artists will sync their releases across all streaming platforms. Once Spotify redesign the navigation to make it easier to discover and share music outside of the app I think… See more
Gabe Grimley@gmgrimley · Co-Owner, Pet Fox Studios
@ausonio https://artistexplorer.spotify.com/ is a good way to do it. Although, now that you mention it, it would be a nice app to make. Generate a playlist of artists with under X number of followers / listens.
Mark Spivey@ausonio · Owner, SoundFunnel
@gmgrimley I know there was an app a few months ago that would discover tracks with 0 plays but this would be a good tool to use. Plays would definitely be a more reliable metric than follows. A cross reference against Last.fm, NextBigSound, Twitter followers, Facebook fans would also be really cool.
Prava Couture@pravacouture · MetaphysicalTech fndr @gl1tchw1tch
@gmgrimley in reference to people like me professional music curators and bloggers that work 40+ hours a week unpaid and Adblocked surfacing and finding up and coming music and musicians
Gabe Grimley@gmgrimley · Co-Owner, Pet Fox Studios
@pravacouture Can I ask how it works to be a professional music curator, unpaid? Wouldn't that make it not professional? Also, can I get a link to your work, I'd love to see what you've been finding. But yeah, I misunderstood Mark's initial comment. We cleared that up.
Prava Couture@pravacouture · MetaphysicalTech fndr @gl1tchw1tch
@gmgrimley @gl1tchw1tch on Twitter plus the Facebook fan page are my audience retention placeholders until the site is up. As far as how it works unpaid. You just really have to love discovering music. But having music tech inside friends also isn't hurting me any