SongBox

Know when your demo gets played

Imagine knowing at a granular level exactly who listened to what songs after you sent out a bunch of demos. That’s SongBox in a nutshell.

Never again ask yourself “I wonder if they listened?”.

SongBox‘s instant notifications and historic dashboards put you in control of your music career.

Product Hunters get a discount on the annual plan.

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MickMaker@mickc79 · Founder of SongBox.Rocks
Hi everyone my name is Michael and I’m the founder and maker of SongBox. First of all thanks to @chrismessina for hunting SongBox! Amazing! SongBox is a platform that makes demo submission easy and transparent for both the musician sending and the person receiving. I worked in the music industry for years as a professional musician (signed to a major label but like most, nothing major actually happened), and then from there transitioned into software development at a large music media organisation. I’ve spent many years submitting demos and then I spent more years working at a place that received hundreds of demos a day. I concluded that the process is broken and unmanageable and have spent the past while building SongBox in my evening and weekend time, and now I’m running with it as a real business. The problem for musicians 1) You send out many demos and usually hear nothing back. There is a pain here as you never know if the person has listened and isn’t into it, or if they haven’t actually listened. SongBox solves that by giving immediate real time notifications to your mobile device when the recipient views your page or listens to your tracks. 2) Songs are potentially lucrative intellectual property and if you are serious about getting your music published, and having an established artist cut your track, then you cannot put that song into the public domain, ie a social network. SongBox is about sharing privately with individuals and retaining control of who can and can’t access. The problem for recipients 1) this is something that shocked me when I worked on music media. The sheer number of demos received and the variety of HOW they get received makes getting through them impossible. Even people who have good intentions and WANT to discover the next great band or songwriter can’t do it. On any given day you may receive 100+ packages in the mail ranging from vinyl to cd to usb stick. That number is multiplied on email with links to bandcamp, soundcloud, files attached etc etc. SongBox provides a single platform where recipients can access songs in 2 clicks. No logins and no downloads whilst retaining privacy for the sender. 2) People who receive demos at high volume are flooded with “have you listened yet?” Calls and emails and my research has made it clear that this is annoying. SongBox removes that pang as the sender will know immediately when someone has listened. I’ll be around all day to answer questions and please not that there is a significant discount on the annual membership for Product Hunters! Thanks so much.
Chris MessinaHunter@chrismessina · Product designer & entrepreneur
@mickc79 hey Mick, thanks for sharing your motivation and intention. Couple thoughts: - show more of your product on your homepage... with fewer words. Show, don't tell. 😅 - is this basically a way to track listens to music that you send? Is there anything special/unique that SongBox does to support demos? - do both sender and recipient have to use the service? I think it's a little confusing who you customer really is (if it's both, maybe provide a clearer path/messaging for each?).
MickMaker@mickc79 · Founder of SongBox.Rocks
@chrismessina Excellent feedback Chris, thank you! 1) Will do re the homepage. I'm working on an explainer video as we speak 2) Yes it's a way to send music privately and be alerted when someone listens. There are privacy concerns around sharing music, particularly if the end game for that song is for it to be released by you, or even more critically, someone else. SongBox provides this privacy, security and control to the musician that isn't necessary found elsewhere. 3) No the recipient does not need to be a user, this is actually one of the key factors in making this efficient. When I worked in Music media I would see so many demos get ignored because the recipient didn't have an account on the required platform OR didn't want to download MP3 files onto their machine. SongBox alleviates all of those blockers. Each SongBox created is tagged with a unique token that is then also tied to the intended recipient in a one to one relationship (one songbox, one recipient, one token). This ensures that only the person you sent the link to can open the SongBox. Without a link sent by the owner of the music, you can't access the page. If a link gets out into the wild (and you don't want it to) then the owner of the SongBox can kill that page dead. Rendering the link useless.
MickMaker@mickc79 · Founder of SongBox.Rocks
@chrismessina Also, there is an accompanying IOS app and features currently in development include: 1) Multi user SongBoxes (Invite multiple people to view the same SongBox and still get the granular reports on exactly who is listening) 2) Team accounts (let your whole band join in on the action) 3) Android app
Chris MessinaHunter@chrismessina · Product designer & entrepreneur
@mickc79 got it, cool!
MickMaker@mickc79 · Founder of SongBox.Rocks
So it's about halfway through my PH launch day and I'm really happy. SongBox has seen multiple signups from all over the world, I'm stunned. I've also been reaching out to some of you who didn't complete signup and I've gotten some AWESOME learnings from you all, so thanks for that. I have just deployed a new version of the site that has an extended trial period and no need for a CC upfront. Enjoy :-)
Marcell@cellus_christie · I help you reach the right ppl 🎯
Would love to check this out but the sign up isnt working for me :/ Tried on two different browsers too https://cl.ly/sn3g
MickMaker@mickc79 · Founder of SongBox.Rocks
@cellus_christie Hi, thanks so much for the feedback and the screen grab, it helps! However I can see from my GA and databases that others are signing up and using the site just fine. Could you please send me an email at hello@songbox.rocks and I'll dig into your issue? Thanks.
MickMaker@mickc79 · Founder of SongBox.Rocks
@cellus_christie hi again. I’ve gotten to the bottom of your problem and also why it is sporadic. I’m using Twilio and it seems that North American phone networks do not support sending from an alphanumeric number. I find this really odd and Twilio don’t make it clear. In short, people in Europe and elsewhere get an sms from “SONGBOX” which is obviously quite a nice user experience. To make it work for North America (specifically USA and Canada) I will need to change things so that the sms comes from what will look like simply an unknown number. This seems pretty crappy but there is nothing I can do about it. I’ll post back on here when the problem is resolved and thanks SO much for flagging it. Really super helpful!
MickMaker@mickc79 · Founder of SongBox.Rocks
Quick update: Based on some awesome user feedback I've received over the weekend, I'm just deploying (as I type this) a new version of the app that has a better process for creating songboxes. Previously the songbox create page was one big form. The new version is kinda like a wizard that takes you through it in 4 separate steps. It's definitely much nicer. Thanks a lot to the early adopters who have jumped right in and are helping me shape the product!