Comments on “Rambox
Fraser Smith@frassmith · Software Developer, Shanghai, China
Interesting that this should come out on the day Franz 3 is released. I can't see a huge difference between this and Franz, both are Electron based. What new stuff does Rambox bring to the table? Update: Downloaded and installed. The resemblances to Franz are… uncanny.
Ramiro Saenz@saenzramiro · Grupo VRS
@frassmith Thanks for your comment. The main differences are, more services (with the possibility to add a custom service manually), Sync Configuration with multiple computers, Lock Rambox, Don't Disturb and is open source!
Fraser Smith@frassmith · Software Developer, Shanghai, China
@saenzramiro yeah, but when I compare the two side by side, I do wonder. Did you build this from scratch and add features or did you just rip off Franz wholesale and add features. In my view, there are just too many similarities in the design language for you to genuinely call this an original piece of work. If I was part of the Franz team, I'd be talking to… See more
Ramiro Saenz@saenzramiro · Grupo VRS
@frassmith I understand your point of view, and I built it from scratch, also using other technologies. I think this is like all web browsers we have, Firefox, Opera, Chrome... they are all similars because people are used to a design and UX, but they have different design, some features and technologies used.
Fraser Smith@frassmith · Software Developer, Shanghai, China
@saenzramiro Seriously? So if I design an Electron App with tabs, then the tabs in my app will be identical to those in Franz and Rambox. i did not know that.
Chris Messina@chrismessina · 🏆 PH Community Member of the Year!
@frassmith kind of harsh considering that Franz is just a wrapper for other people's services. What's with calling the lawyers?
Ercin Filizli@ercinfilizli · #CreativeDirector #nerd - #vucxDE
@frassmith @saenzramiro A unified messaging service as Franz and as Rambox is not protectable. A group of companies (ours included) tried to protect such an idea 6 years ago. These will not be the only wrappers I predict. Great tools - my applause to both teams! Keep going!
Fraser Smith@frassmith · Software Developer, Shanghai, China
@ercinfilizli @saenzramiro My issue with Rambox is not that it does the same thing as Franz. It's that it does the same thing while looking virtually identical to Franz. In fact, my initial thought was that the creators had literally lifted the code and design from Franz (not particularly difficult with Electron apps) and had then tagged on a few extra bits … See more
Ercin Filizli@ercinfilizli · #CreativeDirector #nerd - #vucxDE
@frassmith @saenzramiro (I love productive conversations by the way.) As a director of a design driven full-service digital agency I'm a big fan of design protection. From my pov there is not so much design in both products. Not in terms of UX or design. And I appreciate lean & clever UX design (one of my favorite anti-design company is Google) a lotlotl… See more
Fraser Smith@frassmith · Software Developer, Shanghai, China
@chrismessina Yes, I guess I was forgetting that a lot of the design language is not coming from the creators, it's coming from the frameworks used.