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Ryan Hoover@rrhoover · Founder, Product Hunt
Fortunately, Netflix has this built-in now with offline viewing. Is this legal, @skip721?
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Adam Marx@adammarx13 · CEO, Glipple, Inc.
@rrhoover @skip721 I would surmise that, no, it probably isn't 100% legal. The real problem, though, is that tech has created this gray area where legal and illegal blur to some extent. The same is very true with music, particularly because artists have a different end-game than the major corporations (in that respect, major labels) who may hold certain dist… See more
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Skip Sullivan@skips721 · Customer Delight and Content, PlayOn
@rrhoover @skip721 I appreciate the question. Yes, PlayOn Cloud is absolutely legal. It falls under the same consumer fair use as a traditional DVR (and the VCR before that). Our desktop software (PlayOn Desktop) has been around for many years and we added DVR features to that back in 2011. Also, in regards to Netflix and their built in download feature… See more
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Réda Berrehili@rberrehili · Founder, CEO @ WRD
@rrhoover @skip721 My experience with the TV business makes me say that this is 100% illegal :)
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Skip Sullivan@skips721 · Customer Delight and Content, PlayOn
@rberrehili @rrhoover @skip721 We can assure you that PlayOn Cloud is legal...it's no different than a traditional DVR. As a consumer, you're allowed to record content you have legal access to.
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Réda Berrehili@rberrehili · Founder, CEO @ WRD
@skips721 @rrhoover @skip721 No you can't, because the rights for the contents are negociated considering the territory you're watching them in. So let's say I download a movie in the US which has been negotiated for 0.10cts per view and I watch it in France, territory in which the deal is about 0.15cts per view, the rights bearers lose 5cts per each view.
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Skip Sullivan@skips721 · Customer Delight and Content, PlayOn
@rberrehili @rrhoover @skip721 That doesn't change how consumer fair use is applied.
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Ian Gann@ihgann · Software Engineer at VMware, Inc.
@rrhoover @skip721 Not strictly true. Netflix's offline viewing *does* expire for certain shows. For example, downloaded "Death Note" and it currently shows an "Expired" label next to each episode. This claims it will download w/o expiration.
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Giacomo Lawrance@giacomolaw · Author of thenerdystudent.com
@skips721 @rrhoover @skip721 One app I had to download Youtube videos for offline viewing got removed from the App Store. Are you sure this won't too? :)
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JimHolland@jimholland · Director of Marketing, PlayOn
@giacomolaw @skips721 @rrhoover @skip721 Apple went through an extensive legal review of this product prior to publishing it in the Appstore. Ultimately they too believed this was protected by consumer fair use. It's just a DVR (or VCR if you like) for streaming content. DVR's have been legal for a long time.
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JimHolland@jimholland · Director of Marketing, PlayOn
@ihgann @rrhoover @skip721 Correct, once recorded and downloaded with PlayOn Cloud it's just an MP4 file. Watch it whenever you can get to it. Record Death Note today and you can watch that recording in a year....or two.
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Skip Sullivan@skips721 · Customer Delight and Content, PlayOn
@ihgann @rrhoover @skip721 Right...that's one of the things we highlighted earlier. Netflix downloads (in the Netflix mobile app) do expire. Recordings made with PlayOn do not. Once you download a PlayOn Cloud recording to your mobile device or to your PC/Mac, it doesn't expire. Netflix's implementation of their download feature is independent of consumer … See more
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