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Danny Fiorentini@dannyfiorentini · Founder of @MuzeekHQ
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@dannyfiorentini hahahahaahaha
Danny Fiorentini@dannyfiorentini · Founder of @MuzeekHQ
@netgenius I am curious though; I think I kinda sort've perhaps possibly get what you're hinting at... but I have to agree with the general sentiment here that the messaging is just bananas. Let me try to understand: instead of me clicking a browser, and then me interacting with the Internet within said browser, the Internet and all of it's glory is just seamlessly weaving in and out of my computer's native power? Is Product Hunt's new MacApp, for instance, an example of what you're getting at? Is that the ELI5 version?
Vangeli GelekasMaker@netgenius · Founder | Brand Specialist
@dannyfiorentini wish you would have done without the meme as we have hundreds of hours in our product and really were ecstatic about our placement.
Danny Fiorentini@dannyfiorentini · Founder of @MuzeekHQ
@netgenius initial reaction was genuinely just to the crazy comment wars, not really the product specifically. Product comments remain above, though.
Ali A. Akbar@aliakbar · Marketing and politics. Rebel.
@netgenius Friend, you need a co-founder and an articulated vision. This feels too much like you missed whatever mark you were aiming for. I'm sorry. You have to build a product for a market, not just yourself. Site is riddled with... I dunno, MySpace-y 1999 isms. It also asks for a ton of information while claiming to be against spying and such. It makes a lot of promises before you sign up but doesn't look like it fulfills them. Just being frank and honest here. Go back to the drawing board, get a socially-aware, western co-founder and build something epic because it looks like you have the will to.
Dan Rosenshain@danr_4 · I try to be honest
OK. First thing, I literally don't have a single clue what you're doing. You're all over the place. And no, I'm not falling for the "ooooh so mysterious" fad. Secondly, it's dead obvious you're trying hard to be "cool" and it makes me instantly suspicious of such buzzword-revolution. I mean, "We are currently ROCKING in current beta", really? If you're trying to promote "the new internet", your target audience is basically geeks (and almost-geeks), since normal people are quite content(/oblivious) with the current state. Problem is, geeks don't fall for that crapywriting. Show me something real. Tell me about the technology. Present use cases. But what scares me the most is that such "cool" products are more likely to jeopardize security for user experience and ROI. This seems like a simple case of a buzz product, that has not real focus but tries to do all the cool things at once, with charismatic people (Internet Geniuses? c'mon) who will spend a lot of money on unnecessary things, run the company to the ground, maybe pivot a few times, and finally go byebye. That's the impression i'm getting anyway.
Vangeli GelekasMaker@netgenius · Founder | Brand Specialist
@danr_4 thanks for the feedback. Real quick I am trying to gather something productive from what you said and thus find it very hard "falling for yours" myself so I guess that makes 2 of us :) Happy hunting!
Dan Rosenshain@danr_4 · I try to be honest
@netgenius aaaaand that's another warning sign - totally ignoring criticism. I literally wrote "Show me something real. Tell me about the technology. Present use cases". obviously that's not helpful at all. Good luck and
Vangeli GelekasMaker@netgenius · Founder | Brand Specialist
@danr_4 love the meme even though I know your trolling me, you got 11 followers on Twitter my brother be humble.
jeremy carson@thejeremycarson · Data-Driven Creative
@netgenius I think I remember someone on r/startups on Reddit proposing this idea, and the founder was just as defensive as you were being right now. I'm guessing that was you... nobody was able to understand what you were doing then, and it doesn't look like anybody is able to understand now either. If this group of early adopters doesn't get it, what makes you think anybody else is going to?
Justin Nothling@justinnothling · Entrepreneur
I think PH just got trolled.
Michael Abehsera@michaelabehsera · UI Designer and Developer
@netgenius I still have no clue what this product does even after reading all your replies. I don't see how this is solving any problems besides being super vague.
Vangeli GelekasMaker@netgenius · Founder | Brand Specialist
@michaelabehsera I want to introduce something like AOL, MS-DOS, BBS from the nindies before the networks like Facebook ruled are everyday lives and brought in these conflict of interests (at least for me). I grew up on the internet 12-14 hour days tying up 56kpbs. before the browser was ruling our everyday lives and want to re-introduce this by first introducing this web application. Everything new is confusing and difficult to understand we are trying our best to make it more visible and clear. We are just working on something that could be a lot more cooler and beneficial then many of the dead one feature apps available today. You have to be a REAL internet user to get this idea and creation before it will ever become mainstream. Thank you to Product Hunt for seeing our vision and posting us today! I am not claiming that we have all the kinks worked out but I am claiming that if you take the time to see what we have built and what it is capable of you would respect it for what it's worth. That's all I can say. Thanks.
Danny Fiorentini@dannyfiorentini · Founder of @MuzeekHQ
@netgenius jusssssssst a piece of perhaps un-welcomed advice here, but saying things like "you have to be a REAL Internet user to get this idea" is just flat out condescending. The PH community is literally chalk-full of some of the most intelligent, active, critically constructive and generally helpful (REAL) Internet users, my man. You unfortunately seem to generally lack this type of self-awareness; which seems to be the "product's" deepest flaw.
Michael Abehsera@michaelabehsera · UI Designer and Developer
@netgenius are you seriously self proclaiming yourself as an "internet genius"? I don't know you and you might be very smart but to claim you are makes you look no offense like a joke.
Vangeli GelekasMaker@netgenius · Founder | Brand Specialist
@michaelabehsera I don't understand why this is posted here on our PH page? You could have DM me on my Twitter what point are you making. Please do not do this to me or my product. Thanks.