Limbo

An anonymous job platform for better hiring practices

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#5 Product of the DaySeptember 18, 2017

Limbo is an anonymous job platform where applicants post their ideal role without names or photos & let companies introduce themselves.

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  • Pros: 

    Really different and thoughtful approach to the job search

    Cons: 

    Still brand new

    I really like the approach of anonymizing profiles and allowing people to field multiple profiles to improve access for underrepresented groups and

    allow people to try different ways of marketing themselves or try for different types of jobs simultaneously.

    Joel Potischman has used this product for one week.

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Chris DaryMaker@chrisdary · CEO/Cofounder, Limbo
Hey everybody! Happy to be on PH. We've been building Limbo for the past six months and just launched a few days ago. Our hope is to make hiring in tech more fair and comfortable for everyone. You can anonymously create a profile for your next ideal role (for free!), or find your next great teammate without even having to log in. More on the mission/model in our medium post up there. Would love to answer any questions y'all have on it, bootstrapping as a tired parent, our model or challenges - whatever. Thanks for taking a look!
Andreea Nastase@diemkay · Product Manager & Strategist
@chrisdary Hey Chris, thanks so much for launching this. It came at the right time for me personally. I love the concept, the design, and all the helpful prompts along the way. I appreciate the fact that it's anonymized, so everyone get a chance. All in all, it made me think about aspects I hadn't realized were an asset in the job hunt! I have a few general thoughts / questions about the product, and the hiring process itself. My experience of it so far is that it's like a stab in the dark essentially. If you don't know anyone (yet, as in my case), there's little transparency in the process from the company's side. Anything to help with that would be appreciated. As a candidate, it's hard for me to tell how many people are on Limbo from companies, if any, or what their activity is. I have a profile that I hope someone will respond to, but that's it. Other services aren't great at this either: LinkedIn has hundreds of recruitment managers, making it super confusing, and on Angel List there's a name on record, so at least you feel like your application is seen by a specific person. Two, how do you make sure that this doesn't become *another* channel to keep on top of for the recruiting manager? I've seen the same job opening posted in at least 3 different channels (AngelList, LinkedIn, company site). However, some recruiters I've met socially told me off the record they're listed on some platforms but "haven't checked them in weeks" (!) Lastly, other platforms like Lever now have some built-in forms and quizzes for applicants, which can be a nice way of breaking the ice and differentiating yourself beyond a note or statement. Is this something you'd consider, if companies want candidates to put in a bit more effort? Thank you! :)
Chris DaryMaker@chrisdary · CEO/Cofounder, Limbo
@diemkay Thanks much for your thoughtful feedback! > As a candidate, it's hard for me to tell how many people are on Limbo from companies, if any, or what their activity is. I have a profile that I hope someone will respond to, but that's it. For sure - some of this is just a factor of us just recently launching so not having lots of metrics to share since we were starting with closed beta data only. Expect that to change quickly now that we have launched. :) Some of that is also by design: Serendipitous matches with great companies you didn't previously know about are a good thing! We've also considered tracking stats on a profiles visibility. Times you show up in a search result, what the search was, when you get a view, etc. That's probably a little further down the line but would help to understand where folks are seeing you. > Two, how do you make sure that this doesn't become *another* channel to keep on top of for the recruiting manager? It is another channel ultimately, but meaningfully different from job boards with resume flow, since the hiring manager is the one acting first. If you reach out first, it is pretty likely you'll want to hear back and will act if you do. So there shouldn't be much slack in the system on that end ( and on the other end, it's part of our code of conduct that candidates are expected to be timely in their responses to requests, or they will be banned: https://www.limbo.io/about/condu... ) > Lastly, other platforms like Lever now have some built-in forms and quizzes for applicants, which can be a nice way of breaking the ice and differentiating yourself beyond a note or statement. Is this something you'd consider, if companies want candidates to put in a bit more effort? Absolutely! We've tried to strike the balance of a meaningful form that is also short enough to not be crazily intimidating, but we would love to add more questions like this to get a better sense of candidates. Given the reception we've seen so far which has really surpassed our expectations on the candidate side, we think there's probably room for a lot more here to make really compelling profiles. Thanks so much for your thoughts!
Kesava Mandiga@k3sava · Curious cat. Writer. Explorer.
@diemkay @chrisdary Love the idea and the initial implementation but I agree with Andreea about the need for some stats to show candidates activity on the platform. Serendipity is a wonderful thing, when it happens. However, in the absence of any statistics or activity flow, the candidate might leave the platform assuming no traction for their profile. BTW, I signed up and created a profile. Let's see how it goes. :)
Jamie Ross@jamie_ross · HomelyPlanet
@adcrimer, @chrisdary Please add option for Remote work for NON USA residents that dont need sponsorship
Chris DaryMaker@chrisdary · CEO/Cofounder, Limbo
@jamie_ross Thanks for looking - yes, better support for international is definitely on the docket. We had a bunch of reasons for focusing on the US on launch but remote-without-sponsorship is a pretty simple win. Thanks much.
Kesava Mandiga@k3sava · Curious cat. Writer. Explorer.
@adcrimer @chrisdary @jamie_ross Second this! 👍
Milan vd Bovenkamp ♠@milann · Making technology come alive 🃏
This is brilliant, I had this 'why didn't I think of this?' thought.
Guus Hoeve@guus_hoeve · keydrop.co
@milann Wildcard has potential, it's just in limbo right now 😉
Milan vd Bovenkamp ♠@milann · Making technology come alive 🃏
@guus_hoeve i know right? ;) interesting things to come!
Josh Khoury@josh_khoury · Sales, Freelance
@milann I have this thought every time I open ProductHunt and look at the products on TOP :)
Pete@petecodes · Tech Press List/Do You Even Ship?
really good idea! I'm sure lots of people are looking for things but want to be discrete
Ryan HooverPro@rrhoover · Founder, Product Hunt
This reminds me of Hire My Friend (RIP), a project by @stef, @jongold, and @choosenick ~3 years ago. Maybe they can share some learnings.
Chris DaryMaker@chrisdary · CEO/Cofounder, Limbo
@rrhoover Thanks Ryan! I remember Hire My Friend well - I went looking for it specifically during our initial research. I'd love to hear more on what worked/didn't work.
Stef LewandowskiPro@stef · Founder, Makelight
@rrhoover @chrisdary the hardest part was turning what sounds like a behaviour that people might have into a real business. Passive candidates like this are super hard to advertise to to get them to sign up. After the initial tech crunch piece we were using paid channels to get people to sign up. The company side wasn't so hard – everyone wants talent. But getting enough quality people to make a profile and actually be serious about being approached was really expensive. In the end Nick tried to pivot it into a more direct approach that didn't rely on passive, slightly disinterested users. I wasn't too involved after the initial three-week hack and it was Nick's baby so I'll leave him to comment if he wants to. I think we made it very easy to make a profile, and we perhaps learnt that actually the friction of "I am seriously applying for a job and putting effort into it" is quite a big, useful thing in recruitment. Once you've been through that barrier you're much more likely to attend an interview and go through a recruitment process. Saying "I'm kind of interested if the right thing comes along" just isn't high enough friction, so you end up with a platform of "meh, maybe. Kind of too busy to reply" people, which might frustrate the companies who send messages and don't hear back. My advice, spend a lot of time talking to both sides and find data that you can use as a proxy for finding the people who really want to get a gig, and the companies that are going to do a good job of attracting them. Then use those learnings to find a way to get people to sign up (who really will use it) and for a per-user price that actually works (!) What'll probably end up happening is that you think you can automate all this and then it will get super messy and manual somewhere along the way. Recruitment is hard! Good luck.
Chris DaryMaker@chrisdary · CEO/Cofounder, Limbo
@rrhoover @stef Wow, this is gold. Thanks very much. We've been very cautious/curious about the friction question as well. We ask fairly pointed questions that require thought in our form while also trying to make it transparent what's expected up front. We're hoping that this gets at the right kind of folks who are invested enough to spend some time answering some important questions about role. Additionally, we're keeping a close eye on reveal accept rate to try to suss out if we're overloaded with passive-and-disinterested folks. Right now we're around 70% which we think is good, but we're going to be keeping a very close eye post these launch days. Thanks so much for your thoughts, @stef.
Ryan HooverPro@rrhoover · Founder, Product Hunt
Thanks for jumping in, @stef! Great learnings.
Stef LewandowskiPro@stef · Founder, Makelight
@rrhoover @chrisdary No worries, happy to help! Best of luck with it... we all spent a lot of time thinking about it all and went on to other projects ultimately. You might have more headway given the whole HR-tech explosion since then, and folks being comfortable trying new things.