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Gabriel Lewis@gabriel__lewis · 🤔
Saw this on Twitter
Ryan Hoover
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@rrhoover · Founder, Product Hunt
WOW. This is a big change to Instagram, obviously very Snapchat-inspired (see @caseynewton's article).
Instagram has always been about sharing your "best self" with its highly curated feed of filtered photos. Instagram stories is intended to be frequent and less edited, more of a communication tool. Eager to play around with this later today.
Ben Tossell@bentossell · Something new
@rrhoover @caseynewton I'm interested to see how the two communities play out here - like you said Instagram has a lot of 'artier' photos whereas Snapchat was supposed to be off-the-cuff. Both seem to be muddying those lines And at what point does everything we consume become a daily vlog?!
Rotem Yakir@rotemthegolfer · Guggy CEO - Make your friends laugh
@rrhoover @caseynewton
Kevin Liebigt@superandnice · Head of Design @yeay.com
@rrhoover @caseynewton Let The Match Begin! 👻 vs. 📸
Kyle Kesterson@kylekesterson · Chief Freak, Freak'n Genius
@bentossell @rrhoover @caseynewton Then again, Snapchat released Memories, allowing for higher quality content to be published and shared from the Camera Roll. I've already noticed photographers and artists I follow to treat it more like a portfolio.
Jordan Melnick@beachedmiami · CEO & Founder, Sktchy 😎 Miami native
@kylekesterson and no "Snapchat copied Instagram!" outcry for that move 🤔
Alex @tpbtv
@rrhoover wonder what Snapchat would have to say about this.
Kyle Kesterson@kylekesterson · Chief Freak, Freak'n Genius
@beachedmiami None that I'm seeing. :)
Oleg Sharov@shapob · Founder @pinwheelapp
@rrhoover @caseynewton BOOM
Max Sobkowski@sbkwsk · Creative Director at Surf
@shapob @rrhoover @caseynewton that's brilliant
Kevando@kevando_ · CTO, Frameri
@rrhoover @caseynewton Very interesting to see how people will use this. And I think people will be far less "they copied snapchat" this fall when new ios10 features copy pretty much every photo app out there.
Luis Antezana@luckylou · Digital Communicator
@kylekesterson @bentossell @rrhoover @caseynewton Pretty much any photo-based platform allows for uploading from camera roll. Not really a steal to add the feature in 2016.
Kyle Kesterson@kylekesterson · Chief Freak, Freak'n Genius
@luckylou @bentossell @rrhoover @caseynewton I hear ya, but it went against everything they've championed with their stance on ephemeral culture, because they wanted to directly compete with IG. Snapchat also is essentially WeChat w/ the other half of their messaging platform, and yet I'm not hearing much controversy there. Stepping back, I think there's way too much drama built up around this idea of stealing features. Taking notes from others and doing things better is what has gotten us all this far. I think our attention would be better served if focused on how to make each platform better.
Ben Tossell@bentossell · Something new
@kylekesterson @luckylou @rrhoover @caseynewton yeah a lot of companies take stuff from one another, package it in their own way and release it. But if we are going to nit-pick with things like that then we can say lots of platforms 'stole' the mobile-social-network from Facebook. There will always be ways to say either side of the story. I think the overlooking of WeChat features is probably down to the fact that us in the Western world do not regularly use it (if at all) so its not so in our faces if features are 'stolen'. Whereas Insta and Snapchat are very much a popular use in daily interaction so is more 'in ya face'. I think whats interesting is that each platform starts in its own angle, and then as time goes on and users increase, they 'muddy' the lines by adding functionality similar (sometimes extremely similar) to the other platforms - im sure in some cases its to try and make them irrelevant. 'dont use that story feature when you already love this platform, we do stories too' - thing is that we have such HUGE players in this area with such HUGE audiences, there is so much 'feedback' about 'stealing'. Lets be honest with ourselves in the tech world. So many companies copy a feature and package it differently and try to use that to gain momentum. Happens all the time. But its often when the bigger players do it (and to the masses) that it is completely 'shocking'.
Garrett@misder_james · Coordinator, Content and Licensing
@rrhoover @caseynewton this video makes me hate my own generation
Jack WheelerHiring@jackbwheeler
@rrhoover @caseynewton Here's some real instagram users giving first impression feedback about Instagram stories. There's a couple now, and in a couple hours you'll see 25 responses. https://sprint.dscout.com/s/smcs...
Bjorn Larsen@bjorn · Communication Thinking
@beachedmiami @kylekesterson Maybe because Instagram didn't invent photos?
Jordan Melnick@beachedmiami · CEO & Founder, Sktchy 😎 Miami native
@bjorn my point was that these two companies are aping each other, somewhat like Netflix and HBO. They're converging on the same ground from different angles. Instagram Stories is a particularly egregious feature ripoff, but let's not pretend this is unprecedented. Systrom was accurate, if self-serving, in pointing out that Stories is really just a gussied-up slideshow. It was inevitable that the format would be ported to other applications. I'm in the camp that feels this is a fairly obvious, necessary and overall positive move by Instagram.
Itamar Rogel@itamarro · Co-Founder, Newsfusion
@beachedmiami @kylekesterson I think this is because they were honest about it. They did it. It makes sense that they'd do it. They did a good job. It is what it is. Also, since FB offered to buy Snapchat in the past, you could claim that SV etiquette has been maintained.
Jim Canto@jimcanto · Freedom hunter. Citizen dev. Solopreneur
@beachedmiami @bjorn Media-based business models all compete for a finite amount of attention. Evolution insists certain features are required to survive. Burn rate and general overhead determines how far (and how fast) you have to evolve. Seems we're simply witnessing evolution and natural selection in the social ecosystem. Fascinating to observe.
Fred Rivett@fredrivett · Co-founder UserCompass.com & @wecontrast
This smacks of Google+ seeing Facebook and being like "we gotta do that".
Eder Y. Elom KWASI@eyekwasi · Founder of BookGrid
@fredrivett LOL
Niv Dror@nivo0o0 · Words @ProductHunt & @AngelList
Spot on Snapchat clone
Jimmy DouglasHiring@jimmydouglas · COO at Vault
@nivo0o0 Not even being shy about it. Wow.
@jimmydouglas @nivo0o0 The world these two behemoths live in does not require creativity.
Stephanie Luff@stephaniealuff · New PhD Recipient, University of DE
@nivo0o0 I don't feel an iota of sympathy for Snapchat. They were idiotic to turn down the buyout offer.
@stephaniealuff true plus they had to see this coming. FB has been gunning for them repetitively since they declined the offer
Phuc Kien Nguyen@phuckiennguyen · Founder, Fonk
I think Instagram decided to jump on this ship now because users are still figuring out Snapchat and managing their network over there. However, on IG their network is pretty much established so IG could benefit from network effects while they still can. Would love to have @mikeyk tell more about this move.
Paul Anthony@webireland
@phuckiennguyen - totally agree. Audience segments aren't the same as well - Brands on Snapchat are appealing to a younger audience, so Instagram can take the concept and run with it, and reach a broader section of the market.
Phuc Kien Nguyen@phuckiennguyen · Founder, Fonk
@webireland I think it boils down to features and in that case Snapchat is still pretty good armed with slick geostickers and filters. However it might just be a matter of time that IG will include those since Facebook acquired MSQRD a while ago. Snapchat is doing fine but this is a neat move by IG.