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Momen - Build your MVP and scale it, no code needed.

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Momen is a full-stack, no-code web app builder with an integrated AI agent development framework. It enables you to quickly build and deploy your MVP, reducing time-to-market, and allows seamless iteration and scaling on the same platform.

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Yaokai Jiang
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I'm Yaokai Jiang, a software engineer. I made this nocode tool Momen with my team mostly to scratch my own itch, which can be summed up with: "building an MVP and scaling it". I am a software engineer by both training and trade. As I was working on various side projects before starting this company, I came to the realization that I was repeating the same process: cloud server -> database -> app server -> api -> react -> css, and many other pains in between. I also realized that most of the side projects only contained very limited amount of logic that is truly "core and unique". I asked myself: "Is this the best way of testing and expanding my business ideas? And why can't this be more democratized?" So after the startup that I was working for went public, I decided to embark on this journey to answer exactly those two questions. That was early 2020 (yeah, pre-covid) 💪We wanted and still want Momen to be the ideal tool for non-technical founders to bring their ideas to market. Much like being that sword wielded by a hero going out to slay all the beasts. Now, after almost 5 years of development and iteration, my team and I finally are confident to bring it out for all the hunters to check out! With an integrated AI agent builder to boot! (rag, tools, structured output etc...) We currently support web only, and we expect to support native mobile apps next year. You can try momen out for free at momen.app. Please let me know your feedback. I am especially interested to know how long and / or what steps it takes for you to be confident to say that you "got the idea" of momen as delivering momen's value was always something that I struggled with. 🔥For our Product Hunt community, we're offering a special discount on all of our plans. You can copy the promo code above and paste it in onboarding form, or register through this link and get 50% off: https://editor.momen.app/?ref=97...
Yaokai Jiang
Maker
BTW, momen's website is built in Momen! Like any worthy no-code tools.
John Bass
@jiangyaokai this is very promising. I’ll be checking it out tomorrow
Yaokai Jiang
Maker
@john_bass music to my ears :)
Yaokai Jiang
Maker
@victoria_wu thanks! your kind words are greatly appreciated. keep us in mind when you or your friend want to start something!
Sophia L.
@jiangyaokai I just checked out your YouTube channel—the product looks solid! Hope to see more tutorial videos!
Carol
Glad to see another no-code tool! What's the advantage of Momen compared with tools like Bubble, Webflow or Flutterflow?
Yaokai Jiang
Maker
@carol12 Excellent question! Momen is like Bubble married to framer and xano. We offer as much flexibility as bubble, a modern UI designer similar to framer, and better backend performance than xano (at least according to my own test). Webflow is much better suited for building a mostly static website or websites with limited data interactivity (like a blog), whereas Momen is built for web applications with intensive data interactivity and complex logic. They are each suited for different use cases. Flutterflow is an excellent mobile app frontend builder. Momen does not yet support mobile apps (android / iOS). We plan to support mobile apps by mid 2025. Also Flutterflow relies on mostly firebase for their backend, whereas Momen has an integrated backend, with much stricter type checks as well as much lower cost when your data grows. One of our client's largest table is 68 million rows, and his bill was only 2x single-tenant kit + the project plan, which in total is only arond 300 dollars per month.
Carol
@jiangyaokai Thanks! Sounds like Momen can handle scalability well. How does it perform when it comes to complex apps (in interms of logic and functions)? It seems like no code tools are more suitable for building simple mvps?
Yaokai Jiang
Maker
@carol12 We have support for both complex frontend and backend logic. And we have fully interoperable frontend code component. In the backend, in addition to the usual CRUD operations and conditionals, we also have code blocks that can directly interact with the database, APIs and other actionflows. In fact, we have support for invoking AI agents as well as building AI agents that can utilize all the Momen capabilities as tools! You should give it a try. We do include free tokens to get you started.
Bon
Congrats on your launch, team Momen! The logo and name are really cool. Is there a story behind them? The control panel is somewhat like Figma? It seems a bit challenging for me to get used to it.
Yaokai Jiang
Maker
@bonvisions Thanks for trying us out! We wanted to use "moment" for "building your app in a moment" but then it is difficult for SEO and domain names with "moment" in them were more expensive so we just settled on "momen". The controls are specifically meant to mimick Figma/Framer, especially for user interface design. We had a previous version and the more we worked on it, the more we realized that Figma/Framer already gave us a good example of how to build a design tool. Also a similar design to those two common design tools gave existing web designers the familiarity they prefer out of the box. We follow the "flexbox" layout, you can check out its properties at https://css-tricks.com/snippets/...
Kean Edwards
This looks insanely cool and useful, excited for it!
Cici Yu
Maker
@keanedwards_ Thank you for your support!
Yaokai Jiang
Maker
@keanedwards_ Gracias!! Try it out, it's super handy for monetizing stuff as we have native stripe integration, including subscriptions!
Yaokai Jiang
Maker
@keanedwards_ I will let the design, product and engineering team know! I am sure they will be very proud to hear this.
Zeng
Congratulations on your launch. I tried Momen sometimes around early last year. I can see that you have updated your templates gallery. I tried the portfolio and blog templates. They are great.
Yaokai Jiang
Maker
@zeng Thx! We also updated the editor's canvas, it is now much more similar to figma / framer than what we used to have. And should be more intuitive to designers.
Baba Aghayev
Awesome approach and much needed product for any startup with a minimal budget to test the idea! good luck!
Cici Yu
Maker
@baba_aghayev1 Thanks a lot! That’s exactly the goal. Appreciate your support! 🚀
Yaokai Jiang
Maker
@baba_aghayev1 yes. Momen is here to help founders (especially non technical founders) to build and scale their MVPs. Our goal is to reduce time and cost to market!
Alexander Farr
@jiangyaokai & team, congrats on your launch! The design looks beautiful and if it really works to have 1 million DAU with websites generated by the tool as well, who will need to build real applications? How do you achieve this scalability?
Yaokai Jiang
Maker
@alexanderfarr that is our goal, we have mot tested 1M DAU. currently the largest DAU count is 120k, using 4x single tenant kit. we are working towards 1M. We didn't do anything fancy, we just built things the way they are designed to be used. Building a Cost-Efficient No-Code Full-Stack Webapp Development Platform https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/b... there still are and will be many cases where you may want to use traditional coding.
Snow_M
Maker
Hey, Product Hunt community! I'm Snow, the product manager of Momen. I'm excited to share that our team has spent four years meticulously crafting this no-code development tool. And now, we're proud to present it to you all. Momen is designed as an atomic building tool. We've divided the software building process into three important domains: design, data, and action. At present, we've successfully achieved complex UI building, enabling you to create intuitive and user-friendly interfaces. When it comes to data interactions, they're quite sophisticated and, importantly, our database performance is really solid. Plus, we've also made it possible to build complex behaviors such as workflows. What's more, we've incorporated useful features like AI capabilities and payment capabilities within Momen to enhance its functionality. We sincerely hope you'll give Momen a try. We're looking forward to receiving your feedback. Every single suggestion or comment from you will be carefully considered as we're committed to continuously improving Momen to better serve your needs. Come and explore Momen and let's build great software together.
Jorge Alcántara
This looks really powerful, don’t have a new project to try on now but saved it for the next one!
Cici Yu
Maker
@jalcantara Thank you! We’re excited for you to give it a try when the time comes. Feel free to reach out if you have any questions or ideas later on. 😊
Yaokai Jiang
Maker
@jalcantara yes! thanks! The discount code lasts until end of 2024, please keep that in mind! We are still working on making more content for our users to follow along and better documentation (some of https://docs.momen.app is now stale). I apprecitate you kind words so much. People "in-the-know" in the no-code space often very quickly realize what Momen is and those moments really keep us going!!
jalaj
Awesome tool for developers as well as non technical founders
Cici Yu
Maker
@jalajdu Thanks for the kind words! Feel free to try it out and reach out anytime!
Yaokai Jiang
Maker
@jalajdu thanks so much. Yes. We try to help non-technical founders as well to build and scale their MVP.
Oliver Stafurik
I call this a better bubble!! Great work.
Cici Yu
Maker
@oliverstafurik Appreciate it! Hope you give Momen a try and have a great experience! 👏
Yaokai Jiang
Maker
@oliverstafurik We do want to make a better bubble. Bubble married to framer and xano! Or maybe buildship :)
Nuoyu Yang
Basically a Figma-like design workspace with data requirements from a designed database... It seems like a complete product since they support requiring third party data from api, and permission configurations, and AI (it seems that user need to write prompt on it but just use it). I am impressed by it seems an actually no-code produce and I am really curious about if it works in different programming cases .
Yaokai Jiang
Maker
@nuoyu_yang Yeah, we try to be bubble + framer + xano!
alpereneser
I was looking for a tool other than Bubble.io. And I finally found it. It's great that it's full-stack. It looks good and works well.
Cici Yu
Maker
@alperenesr !!!!! Yeah, we are also pretty surprised that bubble is so popular despite a lot of its issues.
Edward JIA
Impressed by intuitive design! It makes it so easy for anyone to start building without any coding knowledge. Congratulations! 🔥
Yaokai Jiang
Maker
@edward_jia Thanks! Let us know if you run into any issues. You can find our forum at https://forum.momen.app.
Alison Eyo
Perfect timing! Was just explaining to a client why their 'quick MVP' would still take 2 months to build 😅 Been bouncing between Figma and like 5 different no-code tools lately just to get basic AI features working. Quick q - how deep can you go with the AI stuff without touching code? Got a chatbot project coming up and really don't want to explain another tech delay to stakeholders.
Yaokai Jiang
Maker
@thealisoneyo You can set up complex AI agents (RAG + tool utilization) without code. But the "chatbot-like" frontend integration is still lacking. We do already have streaming subscription on the backend though that UI configuration is not yet available. We are happy to work with you to design a solution. You can also check out a livestream I made a few weeks ago on this topic: https://youtu.be/zSWYFKaJ3i4?si=...
Tony Tong
Really awesome ideas, tried it and love using it, congrats on the launch!
Yaokai Jiang
Maker
@tonyabracadabra Thanks Tony!
Rohan Lekhwani
Not sure if a dev mistake but you might want to check on the "People love Momen" section. Did a reverse Google search and found those same people by different names https://lens.google.com/search?e...
Yaokai Jiang
Maker
@rohan_lekhwani Keen eyes! Yes, most users only provided textual feedback, we used stock photos in those cases.
Yaokai Jiang
Maker
@rohan_lekhwani IIRC only Li Zheng and Shiki gave us something to use, maybe Daniel L too.
Ruben Benarroch Esayag
Finally! You got here in the right Momen! 👏👏👏
Yaokai Jiang
Maker
@rupgo hahahaha. Looks like you got the word game. Hope it is also the right momen for you!
Daniel S
Amazing work, congrats to the team!
Yaokai Jiang
Maker
@dan16 Thank you! It's the culmination of 4.5 years of work! More than 100,000 hours of engineering time across the team!! This means so much to us.
Max Comperatore
Launching soon!
looks good but i dont like hard lockings
Yaokai Jiang
Maker
@maxcompe i understand. couple of things to lessen the pain: 1. no increase on active subscription ever. 2. interoperable code components (frontend) 3. working on standard nodejs env that you can access on the backend. (actionflows) 4. bring-your-own-cloud available as an option. 5. general belief in integration with the outside.
Max Comperatore
Launching soon!
@jiangyaokai dear yao, can you give me a coupon so i kick some tires w this? thx
Cici Yu
Maker
@jiangyaokai @maxcompe We're offering Product Hunt users a 50% discount! Simply enter the invitation code 9744278 in the onboarding form or sign up directly using this link: https://editor.momen.app/?ref=97...
Yaokai Jiang
Maker
@maxcompe There is already a 50% discount code on product hunt.