Stas Kulesh

Estimapp 2.0 - How much does it really cost to make an app?

The quoting app. A free cross-platform app that leads you through the deep and entangled forest of app development costs.

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Stas Kulesh
Hey everyone, We've just re-launched a free cross-platform app that leads you through the deep and entangled forest of app development costs. How much does it cost to make an app? Web or mobile? I don't know. What should it do? Does it have maps? Do you need it urgently? I run a software development studio and making estimates is a part of my usual routine. Clients are always keen to hear a ballpark figure. And they want it _now_. With Estimapp you can give them that number in less than 30 sec. We have built on top of the Estimapp app http://producthunt.com/posts/est..., completely reworked the flow, added urgency, complexity and timeframe options and extra features such as 'Branding', 'Mailing lists'. The app produces a detailed shareable quote the features, hours, timeframe and even taxes. (See the example in attachment.) Estimapp can be useful for: - sales people, giving them super quick ballpark figures on the spot. - devs, making their quotes better. - clients to understand the range and the overall pricing structure. Feel free to try Estimapp and share what you think of it. Was it helpful? How can we make it better?
Marat
@stas_kulesh Hey Stas. When you say cross platform you mean iOS / Android, right? No web version?
Stas Kulesh
@maratryndin web version is available at http://Estimapp.com Ta
Nicholas Sheriff
@stas_kulesh I just tried the app haha I see what you did there Stas, it's surprisingly pretty well done from an experience perspective, I don't agree with some of your estimations ( been a product designer for 10 years I've seen too many people, including clients blow too much money to #1 answer very very basic questions). Also run my own app development studio, I'd love to see a similar app from you guys aimed at MVP stage development and not version 1 development.
Stas Kulesh
@nicholassheriff I could add an extra step after the initial selection: MVP, V1, Something unique and beautiful — will that work for you?
Angus
@stas_kulesh all I can see there is a link to the mobile apps.
Tudor Baidoc
Is your app a Hybrid App? I'm asking because I also see Web Version of the App available
Stas Kulesh
@baidoct Estimapp is Ionic-based, yes.
Charlie Coppinger
Awesome work mate, bookmarking this!
Michael Morrison
A couple new feature requests 1. Transition costs - any costs to transition the project from 3rd party to an in-house development team. 2. Estimated cost of ongoing maintenance/bug fixes for the app. 3. Estimated cost for new enhancements to the app. 4. Total cost of ownership over 3-5 years.
David Kravitz
@morrjobs I like that Michael, though a transition to an in-house development team is very dependent on quality of the code, documentation, etc but I think we can introduce something like a code quality grading and options like documentation, code last updated, etc. something to think about in the next couple of month, thanks for your feedback.
Marius Kildedal
Any plans to add the feature to change currency?
Stas Kulesh
@mariuskildedal could be a nice addition to the preferences, spot on! Will have a look on Monday!
Jeff
Do you really need to charge tax on services?
Adrian Gilliam
@jffrybrwn taxes can be an integral part of giving a quote, especially for a self-employed developer who has to pay the so-called self-employment tax
David Kravitz
@jffrybrwn in some countries like U.K. or EU countries you need to charge VAT, in Australia you need to charge general sales tax on top of the development cost.
Michelle Grant
Amazing! Very useful and interesting
yarri
Really like this, thanks for sharing. Created something similar for mobile MVP cost & schedule estimates... https://snapmvp.com
Vlad Korobov
Oh boy. This thing is still working. Very good marketing app!
Stas Kulesh
@vladkorobov every time mate, every time ;)
Mike Way
This could be useful.
Venkatesh
My life would have been so easy if I had this things when I was getting started. This can also help small development companies here in India who do not know how much to charge and end up quoting either very low or extremely high.
Jeff
This is fantastic! Have you considered building in an option to save your quote, so you can revisit it later in the app and adjust or discuss with a developer or project manager?
Jeff
@jffrybrwn Oops! Just found it 😉 I would consider A/B testing the "Find a dev" button.
Jeff
The title of the Step 2 screen is awkward. Why not just make it "Login," "User Accounts," or "Registration and Login?"
Stas Kulesh
@jffrybrwn thanks, I'll look into that
Michael Orcutt
I really enjoy running through these calculators and seeing what people estimate for certain tasks. Default rates are quite low, wouldn't you say? Taxes as well?
Stas Kulesh
@m0rcutt I based the default rates on my experience with remote.com, toptal.com, Crew.co and upwork.com The GST (similar to VAT) tax in New Zealand is 15%, but that is considered high. Thanks.
Evan McCoy
Sounds cool! Looks like a typo on the website though: "An free cross-platform app".
Stas Kulesh
@emccoy spot on!
Angus
I like it, but at the final stage it says "who is this quote for?". I added my own email address, expecting you would get in touch with me, however the only options were "share" or "find a dev". I backed out at that point as I wasn't sure what either of those would do. What I wanted was a "contact me" button. Or something else that explicitly communicated that you would get in touch with me to talk about building me an app.
Stas Kulesh
@angus_halen got it. Thanks. "Find a dev" will send the quote to me after the confirmation. Thanks for pointing this out.I'll spend more time to make it as clear as possible.
Stas Kulesh
@angus_halen I'll rephrase the final title (and the buttons captions) to make it clearer. Any suggestions? "Share this quote with..." _______email________ (Send now) (Find a dev)
Maximiliaan Van Kuyk
I like the concept, at least so people who 'have an idea' can get a better grasp of what they are actually requesting before they waste someones time and freaking out about the price being too high. Although I find that a lot of the value of the quote comes from helping clients to figure out what is and is not really necessary. I wonder how you would go about making those kinds of suggestions automated based on market data.
Stas Kulesh
@maximiliaan_van_kuyk Join the convo above :)
Stan Podolski
You need an app for that????
Stas Kulesh
@ipstas It seems that many people do.
Stan Podolski
@stas_kulesh Yup, never underestimate people
Igor Ozherelyev
Great job guys! Awesome product 👏
Rich Allen
Great product guys! I often find people asking about app costs!