Paul Bae and Terry Miles

Producers of The Black Tapes Podcast

THIS CHAT HAPPENED ON October 01, 2015

Discussion

Paul Bae@mrpaulbae · cofounder
Hi everyone, Terry and Paul here. We're the producers and creators of The Black Tapes Podcast. Since our launch with our first episode on May 25th, we've rocketed up the iTunes charts and gained a large and loyal fan base. We're here to answer any questions you may have about the world of The Black Tapes and The Strand Institute.
Taylor Singer@johnbarthmylove
@mrpaulbae The Black Tapes is great! However--waiting for episodes is the worst! 1) For the next season is there any plan to create content more than every two weeks? 2) What are your guys' favorite podcasts? What other podcasts should black tapers be supporting/listening to? Thank you!
Paul Bae@mrpaulbae · cofounder
@johnbarthmylove Glad you love it! We're sticking with our same release schedule of every 2 weeks. We just started production on season 2. Our favorite podcast are Hello from the Magic Tavern, NoSleep, Lore, 99% Invisible...I'm sure I'm missing a bunch.
Taylor Singer@johnbarthmylove
@mrpaulbae @johnbarthmylove So excited for season 2! Will definitely check these out. Thanks for responding!
Melissa Joy Kong@melissajoykong · Content, Product Hunt
Hi guys! Can you tell us more about how you came up with the concept for The Black Tapes? What inspired the podcast?
Terry Miles@tkmiles · Terry Miles, The Black Tapes Podcast
@melissajoykong Hey Melissa! We both love podcasts, and have loved listening to them for ages. We had already written a feature film script together. When I came over to Paul's place to talk about the movie, I mentioned wanting to start a podcast. We started brainstorming and came up with the show that eventually became The Black Tapes.
Andrew Ettinger@andrewett · PMM @Twitter // Previously @ProductHunt
What types of projects do you hope to work on in the future?
Terry Miles@tkmiles · Terry Miles, The Black Tapes Podcast
@andrewmettinger Hey Andrew, we're both huge fans of television and film. We have a few projects in the works there, also, our podcast network (PACIFIC NORTHWEST STORIES) at pnwstories.com is a big area of focus for us right now.
Alex Carter@alexcartaz · Operations @ 60dB. Ex-PH Podcasts 😻
Also, do you think a fictional podcast could go viral like Serial? It's interesting, because I've been noticing a lot of fictional podcasts gaining popularity recently!
Paul Bae@mrpaulbae · cofounder
@alexcartaz Sorry, I answered in the wrong space. I wrote: Hi Alex. We think our friends at @limetownstories have already answered that question when they hit #1 on iTunes last week. Their success bodes well for us all in this genre of audio dramas.
AntiCast@anticast · Podcaster
@mrpaulbae hey guys! Everyone here in Brazil is loving your show, so, congrats! I've been podcasting for 5 years already, and The Black Tapes got me started in a new podcast idea, very much inspired by your format. I already do storytelling, but your formula seems to be a little different from shows such as This American Life, Radiolab etc. My question: is there any chance you guys can show how your whole production is, from the first idea to the script and the acting/recordings? (By the way, it's Ivan Mizanzuk speaking here :)
Terry Miles@tkmiles · Terry Miles, The Black Tapes Podcast
@anticast Great to hear from you! We love AntiCast! In brief: we research a lot, work on the script in detail with Nic and Alex, line-up our "interview subjects," record interviews and narration, then it's mixing and editing, which takes by far the most amount of time. After that, uploading and QC via Libsyn, then we release to the world via our website, social, etc...also there are weekly production meetings, story concept discussions, etc...and we a put a lot of thought into the future of The Black Tapes Podcast and our network, Pacific Northwest Stories (pnwstories.com). Thanks for listening and for spreading the word in Brazil!
Melissa Joy Kong@melissajoykong · Content, Product Hunt
Two questions for both of you: (1) What's something you thought you'd never do that you since have? (2) What's something you thought you'd always do that you haven't yet?
Paul Bae@mrpaulbae · cofounder
@melissajoykong 1) I never thought I'd produce a podcast. 2) I haven't had drinks with Cormac McCarthy. Yet.
Erik Torenberg@eriktorenberg · Former Product Hunt
1) Tell us about how and when you knew you wanted to launch the Black Tapes. 2) What is your advice to others just launching a podcast looking to build an audience?
Paul Bae@mrpaulbae · cofounder
@eriktorenberg Hi Erik! We were in the right place at the right time. The story of The Black Tapes basically landed in our laps after a ton of research. Our advice to others starting out is to become a fan of several different podcasts and study their form. Also, focus on what really interests you and your strengths.
Melissa Joy Kong@melissajoykong · Content, Product Hunt
You successfully launched a Kickstarter campaign to crowdfund this podcast (https://www.kickstarter.com/proj...) For others who are launching or thinking about starting a Kickstarter project, any tactical advice for doing so successfully?
Paul Bae@mrpaulbae · cofounder
@melissajoykong Just make sure you're constantly updating while it's happening. That is the most important advice.
Melissa Joy Kong@melissajoykong · Content, Product Hunt
The question begs to be asked, given the podcast topic: Do both of YOU believe in paranormal activity and the supernatural (ghosts, spirits, demons)? How does your belief or non-belief impact your sense of faith, god, and/or the meaning of life?
Paul Bae@mrpaulbae · cofounder
@melissajoykong Hi Melissa! Huge question! Terry and I are questioners and are constantly seeking out truth. We see this as a lifelong quest.
Andrew Ettinger@andrewett · PMM @Twitter // Previously @ProductHunt
For people who may not be familiar with your podcast, how would you describe and why do you think they would enjoy listening?
Terry Miles@tkmiles · Terry Miles, The Black Tapes Podcast
@andrewmettinger Hey Andrew, a lot of listeners have used the "Serial meets The X-Files" comparison, which is fun. NPR with Demons?
Alex Carter@alexcartaz · Operations @ 60dB. Ex-PH Podcasts 😻
Hi @mrpaulbae and @tkmiles, thanks for joining us! How is this project different from projects you've previously worked on? What's more challenging about it? Whats more rewarding?
Paul Bae@mrpaulbae · cofounder
@alexcartaz Hi Alex! I've worked in film and television (live-to-tape daily comedy-news program) and stand-up comedy so for me, getting to craft something and put it out there for the public on my own time is an incredible experience. And to get to do it with one of my best friends Terry is awesome because he's one of the most talented artists I know so I can completely trust him personally and professionally. It's so satisfying working this way.
Terry Miles@tkmiles · Terry Miles, The Black Tapes Podcast
@alexcartaz Hey Alex! One of the reasons I was keen to work in this format is the time/creative control aspect of everything. In film I've been fortunate to work on a number of films where I've had creative control, but even on those films, the time from writing to sitting in a theatre is normally at least a year. It's really nice to be able to get things moving faster from typing to listening, and not having to answer to anyone outside of myself and Paul has been liberating.
Ashley Jordan@acjmakeup
Any thoughts on widening your world to video; i.e.: short video clips where we could watch the actual black tape?
Terry Miles@tkmiles · Terry Miles, The Black Tapes Podcast
@acjmakeup Hey Ashley. Thanks for listening! We're seriously considering adding a "Notes" section to our website for season two, where we'll upload additional material, video, photos, etc...we're also developing a membership option for a lot of bonus content (something we started with our Kickstarter).
Alex Carter@alexcartaz · Operations @ 60dB. Ex-PH Podcasts 😻
What has been the most rewarding experience working on the podcast?
Paul Bae@mrpaulbae · cofounder
@alexcartaz Personally, I've been enjoying sitting in the production room with Terry working on the scripts for Alex and researching everything she comes across. We have our minds blown at least a few times a week by the historical research we come across. Also, the fan engagement and very vocal support has been amazing.
Alex Carter@alexcartaz · Operations @ 60dB. Ex-PH Podcasts 😻
@mrpaulbae That's great! I'd love to know more =). What's the more interesting historical story? and I'm curious, how do you get fan feedback / interact with your fans? email? twitter? I think about this a lot; I feel like there should be easier ways for fans and creators to have a conversation.
Paul Bae@mrpaulbae · cofounder
@alexcartaz There are so many historical items that sent us reeling: the background on the Codex Gigas, the stuff on the intersection between the Pythagorean Comma and certain ratios, but the one coming up on the season finale blew us away because we were surprised we had never heard of this thing. (Can't say more on this.) As for fan interaction, we check our Twitter and Facebook feeds quite often throughout the day and The Strand Institute has been forwarding us hundreds of fan letters to peruse. A lot of our fans apparently have experienced paranormal phenomena. A few fans have also been in charge of a vibrant subreddit at www.reddit.com/theblacktapes and they reach out to once occasionally and we're more than glad to oblige.
Ryan Hoover@rrhoover · Founder, Product Hunt
Hey, Paul and Terry! I'm particularly interested in seeing what new revenue models emerge in podcasting as Kickstarter/crowdfunding, Patreon, and other platforms emerge. How are donations working for you with The Black Tapes podcast? How else are you planning to make money and support the show?
Terry Miles@tkmiles · Terry Miles, The Black Tapes Podcast
@rrhoover Hey Ryan, Kickstarter is pretty much a full time job while it's happening, but it's a great way to go if you have an engaged and supportive fan base like ours. Patreon is something we're looking into, and donations are always appreciated! We're currently working out the best way to bring our show to our audience. At the moment we're sponsorship based, but we're looking at every possible way to bring season two to our fans. Ideally we'd like to be self-sufficient, which might mean going weekly again, which would be great.
Ashley Jordan@acjmakeup
What is the casting process like for your podcast, and are you looking for new talent free of charge for season two (wink wink)?
Paul Bae@mrpaulbae · cofounder
@acjmakeup What casting process? (wink wink)
Alex Carter@alexcartaz · Operations @ 60dB. Ex-PH Podcasts 😻
As audio producers, are there any major pain points you currently have with creating a podcast? Perhaps software you wish was better, a process that was less tedious, or services you wish existed (like a better way to interact with your audience)?
Terry Miles@tkmiles · Terry Miles, The Black Tapes Podcast
@alexcartaz Hey Alex, the biggest pain point is the time it takes to edit. It takes 10 days around the clock to put one episode together. We use Adobe Audition, which is great, but not quite as robust as Protools when it comes to 40 + tracks. I can't think of any software we could use offhand, but we're always on the lookout for new tech/social tools to help spread the word!
Leon Lacs@leonlacs · Student at the University of Florida
@mrpaulbae What are your favorite books?
Paul Bae@mrpaulbae · cofounder
@leonlacs Hi Leon! Gators!! My list of favourite books is too long to edit, so I will give you the books that had the most influence on me the time I read them: The Brothers Karamazov (never thought deeply about the universe and meaning until I picked this up at 19); The Remains of the Day (didn't know I had unresolved issues with my "silent" father until I read this); The Master and Margarita and The Sound and The Fury (both made me want to quit writing because their beauty of language was untouchable); and Revelations.
Melissa Joy Kong@melissajoykong · Content, Product Hunt
What have you both learned from working on The Black Tapes that you didn't know before?
Terry Miles@tkmiles · Terry Miles, The Black Tapes Podcast
@melissajoykong Hey Melissa, I think the biggest thing for me has been just how hard it's been to create and produce a podcast (mixing and editing in particular). Initially I thought it would be much easier than making movies...that hasn't been the case! But it's been a great experience!
Melissa Joy Kong@melissajoykong · Content, Product Hunt
In your observation/working with Alex, what makes for a great podcast host?
Paul Bae@mrpaulbae · cofounder
@melissajoykong Charm and grace under pressure. Alex is the best and we're extremely lucky to have her.