Jeremy Burge

Founder of Emojipedia & Member Unicode Emoji Subcommittee

THIS CHAT HAPPENED ON May 04, 2017

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Jeremy Burge
@jeremyburge · Founder, Emojipedia
👋🏻👨🏻‍💻❗️ I’m Jeremy Burge, founder of 📙 Emojipedia and host of the 🎙 Emoji Wrap podcast. I’ve spent four years documenting 📲 emoji releases from major vendors, and tracking emoji updates 📝 in the Unicode Standard. If you have an emoji question, or a question about Emojipedia itself, there is a good chance I can answer it. 🙋 Ask away! UPDATE: Thanks everyone, this has been fun. Sorry I didn't get to every question, but thank you to everyone who joined. In the words of Jerry Springer, be kind to one another 💕🙇
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Ben Tossell
@bentossell · Community Lead, Product Hunt
Can you describe a typical day in the life using only emoji? Here's mine: 🛌 😴 😪 🚿 👕 👖 🍳 💻 💻 💻 💻 💻 💻 💻 💻 💻 💻 💻 💻 💻 💻 💻 💻 💻 💻 💻 💻 💻 💻 💻 💻 💻 🏃 🍽 💻 💻 💻 💻 💻 💻 💻 💻 💻 💻 💻 💻 💻 💻 💻 💻 💻 📞 🍽 💻 📚 🎧 🛌 Or some variation of that...
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Jeremy Burge
@jeremyburge · Founder, Emojipedia
@bentossell Sorry about running to your empty plate for lunch, Ben! 🏃 🍽 A fairly usual day looks a bit more like this: 🛌⏰🐦🍌🚲🏢🥐/🥑/🍳👨🏻‍💻👨🏻‍💻👨🏻‍💻🚶🏻🍴👨🏻‍💻📲💬📻👨🏻‍💻🚲🍻🚲🍕 Bonus round: here is the day in the life of a cat: 😾😾😾😾🍛😺😼😾😾😾😽😾😾😾😾😾😾😾😾
 
Niv Dror
@nivo0o0 · Writer/Social Editor @ProductHunt
As emojis increase in utility/importance in every day language, the difference between Apple's design, and Android, Gmail, Twitter, etc. are also quite confusing (i.e. we don't use certain emojis in the Product Hunt Digest because it will look different for everyone) and texting people on Android is a whole different story... 😅 Not to make this a Android vs. iOS thing (I like Android!) but Apple's emoji clearly look better / communicate what you're trying to say in the clearest manner. ✌️ Question: What would need to happen for everyone to adopt Apple's emoji design? 🤔
Tristan Isham
@tristanisham · Co-Founder of Cloudy
@nivo0o0 Followup @jeremyburge What is your favorite emoji design across all devices and platforms? Least favorite? Personally I'm a fan of Twitter and Facebook Messenger's. I can't stand Android's though.
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Jeremy Burge
@jeremyburge · Founder, Emojipedia
@nivo0o0 The main thing holding back everyone using Apple emojis could be the potential legality of it all. While many of us tend to think of emojis like they are an open standard, the images in each font still belong to their respective vendors: Apple, Google, Microsoft, etc. What’s unclear is whether apps like WhatsApp (which uses Apple emoji images embedded in the app on Android) have any form of permission or licensing from Apple to do this. My guess is that Apple may have a beef if Google or Samsung decided to do this same thing at an OS level. I wrote a bit about the legality of emoji ownership here: http://blog.emojipedia.org/who-o... Second-best shot at consistent cross-platform emoji images: if everyone adopted an open source set, like Twemoji: http://emojipedia.org/twitter/
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Jeremy Burge
@jeremyburge · Founder, Emojipedia
@tristanisham @nivo0o0 I'm most familiar with iOS, so to me those feel like what I want to be sending. It's not without its issues, though. We all give Samsung a hard time, but their animals are super cute http://emojipedia.org/samsung/ Runner up: Messenger has a beautiful set, but a little hard to see what's going on at small sizes 🔍
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Ryan Hoover
@rrhoover · Founder, Product Hunt
If you were stuck 🔛 🅰️ 🐪 🌴 and could only bring 1️⃣ emoji with you, which 1️⃣ would you choose? 🤔
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Jeremy Burge
@jeremyburge · Founder, Emojipedia
@rrhoover 🙃 is the swiss army knife of emojis. It can mean anything. If limited to one, I would pack 💼 this 🙃
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Jeremy Burge
@jeremyburge · Founder, Emojipedia
@rrhoover PS: there is literally a desert island emoji 🏝 how cool is that! http://emojipedia.org/desert-isl...
Kunal Roy
@kunalroy · Developer
What's The next Big thing in Emoji World ?
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Jeremy Burge
@jeremyburge · Founder, Emojipedia
@kunalroy Big thing now: More inclusivity. There are three gender inclusive emojis coming out this year (child, adult, older-adult) and potentially more to come (eg non-gendered 👮 police officer, or 🏃‍♀️ runner). It's not yet clear the scope of this - whether *every character* will get a gender inclusive version or not. More to be discussed next week. Next Big Thing: Unicode has stated a long term goal of completely customizable emojis. It’s not clear how that would or could work, but proposals have been made. That would be a big change compared to how emoji support works now.
Marc Bodnick
@marcbodnick · Quora
Why are Gmail's emoji so bad?
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Jeremy Burge
@jeremyburge · Founder, Emojipedia
@marcbodnick I quite like the little gumdrops! Gmail and Hangouts both use the Google-designed emoji set used on Android which are a big step up over Gmail's older 16x16px icons. Personally, I prefer platform-native emojis over apps to sites replacing their own images.
Emily Hodgins
@ems_hodge · Community and Marketing, Product Hunt
Do you think we could enter into a world of only communicating via emoji in the near future?
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Jeremy Burge
@jeremyburge · Founder, Emojipedia
@ems_hodge Emoji-only communication is near impossible without context in my experience. Matt Gray and Tom Scott setup an “emoji only social network” called Emojli a few years back and yes I signed up and yes it was near impossible to have conversations that went anywhere 🤣 I think I asked someone "🍕❓" and they said 👍 In a more limited scope, emoji-only chat can work well for fun or creative endeavours - eg guess the movie 🎬
 
Niv Dror
@nivo0o0 · Writer/Social Editor @ProductHunt
Hey Jeremy, saw your recent TEDx talk! The history of emojis is super interesting, and its fascinating to think of how indispensable emojis have become in the last 10 years. Emojis are our modern "universal language" but aren't taken very seriously just yet, it seems like. Do you see emoji classes ever becoming part of the required curriculum at schools in a few years' time? 🤔
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Jeremy Burge
@jeremyburge · Founder, Emojipedia
@nivo0o0 Emojis seem to have done more to replace “internet speak” (lol) and text emoticons :-) than other parts of language. Some great stats on this from Instagram 👉 https://engineering.instagram.co... I don’t know about you, but I didn’t get any classes into how to lol correctly so probably won't get classes on how to 🤣 either. I think the internet will be a better resource here 🙃
Gary Torres
@gary_torres · Software developer
Do you have plans of opening an API? It would be interesting to see what developers come up to by connecting their products with emojipedia.
Jon Roig
@jonroig · Chief Scientist, i❤️.ws
@gary_torres I'm also interested in this...
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Jeremy Burge
@jeremyburge · Founder, Emojipedia
@jonroig @gary_torres Good question! We have an API was open briefly - and still serves DuckDuckGo with its emoji searches today. If you search any emoji on DuckDuckGo it will show an image, name, snippet of description and a link to read more from Emojipedia. Check it out here: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=%F0%9F... The reason this is currently closed to new applications is just a matter of priorities. Every minute we’re spending working on the API means a minute less on the site itself. I’d love to see this open again in future, but don’t have any promises or timeframe on it! 🤞🤐
Adam Pokornicky
@callmethebear · CEO, DoggyBnB & Sniffer
When can we expect to see emojis for Bitcoin? Also, why why why why why why did you make the terrifying clown emoji? 🤡
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Jeremy Burge
@jeremyburge · Founder, Emojipedia
@callmethebear There have been proposals on making Bitcoin a Unicode character dating back to around 2011. Some issues existed around the fact that the Bitcoin symbol is a logo, and logos aren't permitted in Unicode. I believe these were overcome, and Bitcoin symbol could be on its way. Not as an emoji though. This would be as a regular glyph like £$€&§
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Jeremy Burge
@jeremyburge · Founder, Emojipedia
@callmethebear 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡 <- you can thank Yahoo for the clown. It was added for compatibility with Yahoo Messenger in Unicode 9.0
Adam Pokornicky
@callmethebear · CEO, DoggyBnB & Sniffer
@jeremyburge lol. Yahoo messenger. Is that a real thing?!?